Moss
Animation Source newsJanuary 03, 2013
Render Problems

Written by Moss :



 

Linearts are still allowed to be used and mods are still discussing adoptables. 

Hello members of Animation Source!

I revised it and just got to the point, I apologize for any prior confusion. 

In your fanimage gallery, there should be at least 1 graphic. (example shown below) If you are planning to make an image gallery soon, then your first image must be the graphic. 

Blank renders are still allowed. Renders are still allowed. Just remember that 20% of your gallery should be images/graphics of official site characters. 

Also, if you send in a blank render/lineart a character icon should not be included. 

Along with renders, wolf makers, horse makers, Dolldivine ect... are no longer allowed in any source. Studying the image rules it states "Pictures drawn by other artists aren't allowed." So we won't accept them anymore. This also applies to the character full body image, it cannot be made on dolldivine or any other wolf/horse/lion ect maker. 

Starting in a week, moderators will start deactivating galleries that do not have at least 1 graphic within the gallery.

Examples of graphics:

Avatars-

/balto/en/view_fanimage/Moss_Balto_Icon/234.html&numart=13134&display=18 

Banners- 

/lion_king/en/view_fanimage/Juuchan17_FANS_Simba/2.html&numart=22094&display=18

Signatures- 

/spirit/en/view_fanimage/Sofiel_siggy/107.html&numart=12885

Mini modding: The mods have agreed we have seen an increase in mini modding going on in alot of the sources. Please, if a moderator is handling the problem, allow them to. If a moderator is not around, report the problem, don't try to take it on yourself. Also, please, when reporting something add the comment "reported" so other know that it has already been reported. Along the same line, don't just bash the member. Actually give them real critique so they can use it in the future. Only pointing out the problem won't help them get better.




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January 06, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
Wait so no more using lineart? If we can't use the free lineart it is useless. so I will have to get rid of most of my images on bambi source but I have a full load of Free avatars coming in^^

January 06, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
@Moss:
IDK if you've seen my gallery or not, but do you see that image of Kiara? Would that count as a graphic? I mean, it's not lineart. It's just a screencap with some graphics and text I made with gimp.

January 06, 2013
Australia Is not currently on the site
i have a question wich sort of relates

with renders (mostley on LKS and SS) if somone uses say disneyscreencaps.com's caps do they have to credit them? i belive they do as its there caps ,they have a site to run with out credit they lose people who might come to them

January 06, 2013
Fan news editor, Global moderator Usa Female Is not currently on the site
I am a legend
Black rose- Oh no, we were just stating that while we are on the topic of render that wolfmakers will no longer be accepted =)

January 06, 2013
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Wolves of Mercy Falls
Annita - I don't see anything about line arts for character full body images. Those seems fine. Doll Makers are no longer allowed as full body images or gallery images. But, yes, please keep adoptable to the forums and random adoptables off the site, and you've got it right about the graphics. (Again, I'm not sure if memes count as images, so I would make sure of that.)

Mods - This news says "Along with [I]renders[/I], wolf makers, horse makers, Dolldivine ect... are no longer allowed in any source." So, are renders no longer allowed at all? If so, I'm going to have to edit my last comment... Oops...

January 06, 2013
Fan news editor, Global moderator Usa Female Is not currently on the site
I am a legend
Wolflover- For a while, most moderators were accepting colored linearts for the first image. NOW we have just cleared all that up and made it official that it must be a graphic. We appreciate your support also c:

Charlee- No no, linearts are still allowed. BUT, in your gallery please add a graphic you made yourself. If you only have MS paint I would suggest a avatar.

Silverbreeze- As I stated above for wolflover, it wasn't simply "poor moderation" but the rules were unclear and at the time we accepted a colored lineart/render as the first image. We have cleared that up now c: And you do not have to replace your first image, just send in a graphic and we will validate it. That will count as a graphic, even if it isn't your first one.

Annita- Feel free to PM me about what you are confused about and I will try to clear it up for you!

Fido- Then you should be fine...




January 06, 2013
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Water Tribe
McKinley, you can absolutely draw your own characters. No one here is trying to stop anyone else from drawing what they want to draw. The rules simply dictate what you can : post:. There's a huge difference there.

You can :draw: whatever you want, and however much of it you desire. But according to this, at least 20% of what you : post: here has to be Balto related (preferably concerning canon characters rather than fancharacters, some of which are quite questionable in their true relation to the movies.) This post deals in particular with the image galleries and the mass overload of renders that fill the place.

January 06, 2013
Australia Female Is not currently on the site
Hidden Souls
Mckinley: You can draw your characters, its just that 20% of your image gallery has to be graphics of official characters

January 06, 2013
Canada Is not currently on the site
what? are you saying i can not draw my own characters!? gee after all the great pictures i just drew..........

January 06, 2013
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Black Rose- Let me see if I understand this better. The rule is we can't use lineart's for full body images, use a random adoptable someone made, & must have a graphic every 5 images? If that's the case, it doesn't seem hard. (Although there are 2 adoptables I was thinking about. X3 x/)

January 05, 2013
Usa Male Is not currently on the site
Awaiting TS Modship
Lionsoul->Yes,it most certainly is.;)

January 05, 2013
Uk Is not currently on the site
Is an avatar a graphic?

January 05, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
L&T Source Moderator
Oh I dooooo think that galleries full of nothing but renders (especially with very few line arts...which have been granted permission for use) is a problem. Because it actually is.

Especially when it's twenty or more characters which are hardly ever used but for maybe onsey-twosey role-plays that never really go anywhere anyway.

And then there's that whole originality and creativity question. lol

January 05, 2013
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Wolves of Mercy Falls
"my first image was a render of an official character. nobody ever told me i was doing something wrong. if i post a graphic that includes only official characters, will my image gallery still get deactivated? and also, were can you read that your first image has to be a graphic? for as far i know, the rules only said that the first image had to have official characters in it. is it okay to just post a graphic now, or do i have to replace my first image? i'm a little confused." - Silver Breeze

No, you are not doing anything wrong. While Mighty is correct that rendering an official character over themselves is against the rules, I took a look at your image, and it is fine. The main issue is galleries that contain hundreds (I'm just barely exaggerating) of renders of their characters with no official characters in sight. It does state in the rules that your first image must be of an official character, which is normally a graphic, but I suppose it does not have to be. You've found a way around it, but you are not against the rules. And, yes, posting a graphic now would be fine, I think. Just keep the 1:5 ratio and it really doesn't matter the order.

"I.. don't really understand." - Annita89

What don't you understand? For every five images that you have, at least one of them must contain official characters. One of these images must be just official characters, which is most normally done by graphics. Normally this should be a new member's first image, but for older members, it should just be in the gallery somewhere. Taking a look at your gallery, your ratio is just fine. I'm not sure if memes count as graphics, but I don't see why they shouldn't be.

January 05, 2013
Site builder (info), Site builder (graph... Usa Female Is not currently on the site
LATTS admin/Forums mod
"my first image was a render of an official character. nobody ever told me i was doing something wrong."

You experienced poor moderation. Rendering over a character as the same character for a first image is considered cheating. An image like that, as a first image, should have been deactivated, and the mod who deactivated it is suppose to inform you of that and explain the rule.


"if i post a graphic that includes only official characters, will my image gallery still get deactivated?"

No, your gallery won't be deactivated (though you don't appear to have one, so you have nothing to worry about).

"and also, were can you read that your first image has to be a graphic? for as far i know, the rules only said that the first image had to have official characters in it. "

This rule is first presented to you when you don't have a image gallery on here (or any other source). I know it doesn't specifically say that the first image needs to be a graphic, even though I think it should be a little more specific. Unfortunately, the only one with the ability to change that is Steet, the webmaster. Even if one was to contact him (and that's a whole other story), he would probably say no to the idea.

"is it okay to just post a graphic now, or do i have to replace my first image? i'm a little confused."

I'm not sure I know why you're asking this, you don't even have a gallery as of now. Unless a mod or yourself removed the images.

Anyway, as long as you have at least one Balto related image in your gallery, then you have nothing to worry about.

January 05, 2013
France Is not currently on the site
I Never made a render and my comics include official characters

January 05, 2013
Uk Is not currently on the site
My first image was in fact a coloured lineart (I'm pretty ashamed of that x'D) of Balto and Jenna touching noses. I'm definitely going to change it to one of my graphics that are older (and more towards my early images in my gallery). I do intend to get more graphics created and posted up, so I have a mix of both graphics and renders.

Finally, the banning of those wolf-makers that people use for characters (and to often make images of their characters in), that's something I believe a great deal of people have been waiting for. After all, it's pretty much down right lazy. Wolf-makers/horse-makers/lion-makers etc. change the colours, builds, eyes, fur, etc of characters by clicks of buttons, which really requires no effort at all. People should put in the effort to render, or even go the extra mile to draw their characters for their full body pictures. Not simply stick a 2 minute click-of-buttons picture up made on Doll Divine. Don't get me wrong, the artists who created them are very talented, BUT that's THEIR art.

Anyways, I really like this new rule! I agree with what Mighty said about these random adoptables, shouldn't they be moved to the adoptables board on the forums? (I think we have one, if memory serves me right). Well done mods! I am 100% for this new rule^^



January 05, 2013
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
I.. don't really understand.

January 05, 2013
Australia Is not currently on the site
silver i belive its fine , if you upload one it says you need atleast one

January 05, 2013
Netherlands Is not currently on the site
my first image was a render of an official character. nobody ever told me i was doing something wrong. if i post a graphic that includes only official characters, will my image gallery still get deactivated? and also, were can you read that your first image has to be a graphic? for as far i know, the rules only said that the first image had to have official characters in it. is it okay to just post a graphic now, or do i have to replace my first image? i'm a little confused.

January 05, 2013
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Charlee -- Yeah, pretty much. At least that's how I interpret it.

January 05, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
Ohhh!! Wait, I just reread everything. And this whole thing is just for our first time image? So like, I made my own image of Kiara, that counts right? So that counts as my "first image". & Now, I'm allowed to use as many other renderings for my other images (for my own characters) -- as long as I keep about 20 percent of my images TLK character-based?

January 05, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
Oh! So as long as we keep some real characters (i.e. Simba, Kiara, Kovu, etc) in our gallery at least 20% of the time, we are allowed to use renderings for our own characters?

haha, I thought this always was a rule?

January 05, 2013
Usa Female Is not currently on the site
Charlee -- There are no problems with people's galleries full of renders. The real 'issue' here is the lack of official characters on the Sources. A good many galleries are full of other people's fan characters. NOT that there is a problem with that. There isn't. There shouldn't be.

*sighs* Some people do graphics, because that's what they do, and all of them contain official canon characters. Others do renders that contain official characters, but evidently, they don't count as a first image, which must be a graphic of some kind. Renders of fan characters that have a strong, legit connection to the official characters are all well and good too.

If the rules were more in-depth we wouldn't be having problems like this.

This does not fall on the fault of the members of the site, old or new. It's hard to know what is allowed, what isn't, how much of one thing is good, while the lack of another is not when even the rules themselves are unclear.

January 05, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
What do you mean?
I thought this was a fan site?
If some people want to make their gallery full of renderings that they made based off one of their favorite movies, and let their friends use them, what's the problem with that? I understand art theft is an issue, don't get me wrong. But to band them all together? :/
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I really don't see a problem. A lot of people use the renderings they get to make a new design on their beloved Disney characters.

January 05, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
L&T Source Moderator
Eeyeah. See? That, in of itself, is a major problem on this site. But it does fall outside the scope of this news...to a certain extent.

January 05, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
Yes, I understand that. But there's a lot of people who do a lot of free renderings, that's mostly what their galleries are! So no more of that?

January 05, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
L&T Source Moderator
:icon332: Maybe you could consider, you know, doing something ELSE? Eesh.

Honestly...try doing some art of your own. Regardless of whether or not you think it'd "make babies cry". Or render something. In accordance with these rules naturally.

There is that, and there are other things to do on this website. Er...yeah...

January 05, 2013
Usa Is not currently on the site
So we would no longer be able to use other peoples renderings? Like -Tytos-'s free renderings? That stinks! That's all I do here. :(

January 05, 2013
Australia Is not currently on the site
question - im doing alot of minecraft stuff where would it go fan images or fan art? some of it is pixel art some builds relating to the movie, one some even customised in game things
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