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Zira is the main antagonist of "The Lion King 2". We see that she has an obsession with Scar while their relashonship remains unclear. Zira was supposed to be Scars mate but that was cut so her relashonship with Scar remains unclear. Zira seems like a complex Villian and I wish they would have gone into more depth with her. She cries for Nuka after he dies and blames Kovu for his death. She seems incapable of dealing with the emotions that come to her surface but remains loyal to her pride and family until the end. Even when they betray her! Is this the work of some super mind plot holes or misunderstood Villian? Is she even a Villian? Well she is classified as one but she seems a little to complex for the ugly and nonwhite people Villians Disney usually makes! She has held a grudge but as we she when she scars Kovu she blames other people for things she considers her fault. Or maybe she just doesn't get that she was at fault. But at least to me it raises the question dose she blame her self for Scars death if so it would make sense that she was so keen on revenging him! Also it would account for her dislike of her children even if Scar wasn't her mate her mate is not their for her so either he died or abandoned her and either way that's got to be painful! Especially because she has to raise children who probably look like her mate(s)! So what do you think?

I don't think calling Zira a villain is correct. In a story there is a protagonist who is the leading role of the drama and action, the person that the audience cheers for, no matter their allegiance as good, neutral, or evil. (You may find an example of this in Simba.) Then there's the antagonist, who is the character that is meant to provide struggle for the protagonist's journey towards their goals, they're an adversary to the protagonist. (I would argue that Scar is a good example in the first movie). Just because the protagonist has an enemy doesn't mean their enemy is an evil villain or that the protagonist themselves is a gilded hero. Protagonists are able to be complex and dynamic characters that are relate-able to the audience and are even able to be evil. This brings more interest to the character and well as create a strong story. But a story can be weak if the protagonist doesn't have as equally strong of a counterpart in the antagonist.

I'd say that in Simba's Pride, Kovu is the main protagonist due to the amount of struggles he faces that are caused by his environment and Zira (which makes Zira the main antagonist). We see that Kovu is forced to choose between love and hate, duty and family, etc. But this requires a lot of characterization, meaning that Zira needed just as much. So what am I getting at?

Zira is a well characterized antagonist driven with a strong motive.

Taking from my post from your previous topic:

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I've always thought Zira had the emotional capacity of a toddler. She always let her severe adoration (an emotion) for Scar run her life, even as an adult. I believe when Nuka died, she actually felt a level of mature remorse and the only single moment of clarity. But right when that moment passed, she blamed Kovu, and saw him as a failed Scar. Zira trained Kovu to be Scar, and I believe that comes from him sharing the same colors as Scar and appearing like him (even though they have completely different body types and details). So every ounce of obsession that built throughout her life towards Scar was redirected into Kovu, making him as objectified as Scar in Zira's eyes. So she didn't care about Kovu when she hit him. Besides, since he's not really her kid, she doesn't have the whole "blood is thicker than water" philosophy to abide by. It's kind of like how a child peacefully cries for a split second before throwing a toy across the room in during a tantrum.

I see Zira as more complex then that she seems to me to want to bring the outsiders together but finds she can't count on them. After the harsh blow of Nukas death she seeks revenge. She is a torchered woman who still has to raise kids. So that's how I see her.

I think Zira is a more complex villain. But she's not the character you are trying to make her. You are trying to convince us that she was a caring lone mother, but he's anything but that. This is what I find the most disturbing and scary in Zira as a villain - she is using her kids to achieve her goal to revenge Scar. I pretty much agree with everything Exile said here:

She is upset for a moment after Nuka's death, but considering the deleted scene ("I finally got your attention, didn't I?"), I think a real parent would be devastated seeeing how her unrealistic expectations and ignorance led her kid into death just to impress her and show they are worthy being her kid. But Zira is not like that. She's vengeful and she refused to follow any reason. She imedietely blames Kovu for Nuka's death like she blamed Simba and the pridelanders for Scar's death. You can observe the same thing when Kovu was a cub. Shhe's only nice when she wants something. First she's angry with Kovu but then she sees the oportunity to use him in future to seduce Kiara. The song "Mu Lullaby" is all about Zira's future revenge. She teaches her kids to hate, lie and betray for her. She doesn't care about them more than how much she can use them. She's not upset that her kids die/abandon her, but she is angry for the fact she can't use them anymore.

I think Zira is someone who can't process her emotions. She sees Nuia dead he tells her a thing that breaks her heart and she dosn't know how to deal with it so like she has probably been taught by Scar she focuses on hating hating Kovu who she thinks caused this. Hating Simba for banishing her and she probably hates herself she has the amount of ability to deal with her emotions of a toddler and the emotions of an adult raising kids was not the right choice. She is hateful and dosn't know how to calm down or think.