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  Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 10:27 am 
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I'm not so sure where to start here.

Firstly, is Spirit a buckskin or a bay dun. The only reason I am confused here is because Esperanza is a Palomino, which is single creme on red, and buckskin is single creme on bay. So if Spirit's father was a bay, Spirit could be buckskin. But if Spirit's father was something else like bay dun, erm... yeah.

Secondly. Rain's paint coloring, would I be right in guessing that it's something like bay sabino?

This is just so I can sort of make a fanbaby up.

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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:14 pm 
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I try not to think about it too hard, but I just consider Spirit a Dun because of his Dorsal stripe.


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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:55 pm 
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Dreamworks designers based Spirit's design off of a Kiger mustang named Donner, according to the newspaper article I have form when the film was released. Donner is a dun, as the dorsal stripe is present. DOrsal stripes and leg bands are primitive markings, relating back to the original Spanish horses brought over in the 17th century. Here is an article on Wikipedia on th ebreed. Scolling down, Donner is also mentioned as the model for Spirit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiger_Mustang

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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:04 am 
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I always figured Rain was a simple pinto / paint.

No need to speculate Spirit for I think Koeyohte answered rather well.

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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:07 pm 
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Cobaltié wrote:

Secondly. Rain's paint coloring, would I be right in guessing that it's something like bay sabino?


Rain isn't Sabino by my observation. Sabino "roans" around the edges of the color. You can read up about sabino coloring here.

It would be my best bet to say that Rain is a Tabiano -- which is a dominant gene (T).

"All four legs may be white, at least below the hocks and knees. Body markings will usually be regular and distinct, often being oval or round patterns that extend down over the neck and chest giving the appearance of a shield. The Tobiano Paint will usually have the dark colour in one or both flanks. The Tobiano may either be predominantly dark or white."

For Sabino:

"It may have white flecking through its coat and the edges of its white markings may be speckled or broken."

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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
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Thanks for those pictures, Kirada. Guess the site I was using to try and identify them wasn't so good.

Roi Doberwolf wrote:
I always figured Rain was a simple pinto / paint.


I was speaking color genetics, not breed... "paint" and "pinto" don't really describe their markings and stuff as accurately.

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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:03 pm 
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Kirada wrote:
Tabiano
** it's Tobiano ;D

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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:20 pm 
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Spirit has to be buckskin, just take a look at his markings, then the markings of a buckskin horse.

Rain is simply an American paint horse :)

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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
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here is a link to where the real spirit lives"the one dreamworks used to make the cartoon" all you want to know is here
http://www.returntofreedom.org/kids/spirit.html

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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
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Cobaltié wrote:
So if Spirit's father was a bay, Spirit could be buckskin. But if Spirit's father was something else like bay dun, erm... yeah.

his father was black, but Esperanza's mother is Palomino with black mane and tail (as said in the books)


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  Re: Question on Spirit/Rain colors and the sort
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spirit is a dun color http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dun_(color) kiger mustang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiger_Mustang
and rain is an american paint horse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_paint_horse ,

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