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I know, I know, it's not the site builder's job and all that but honestly in between thinking of cool new pages to add to the source and making the existing ones better there's plenty of time to activate the works sent to the source.
I know myself and Blazetail on Spirit Source could certainly do it.

No need to make site builders mods, just add the permission to activate works.
No warning, no banning - just send anything that might need a warn or ban straight to the Global Mods.

And while we're at it - how about updating the must-see content?
I know we don't need full mod privileges for it because I can still do that despite being only a site builder (from a glitch when being changed from mod to site builder I believe).
We all know what good content is and again it'd make the sites faster and the members happier.
AND take a load of work off the already busy Global Mods.

If there are cons I'm not seeing feel free to tell me, but all I can see is pros to be honest. xD
-Site Builders already know the site, no need to go looking for "suitable mods".
-No need to access banning or warning systems, that can be passed on to the Global Mods.
-Faster activations mean more active sources and happier members.
-Regularly updated Must-See content also means more active sources and happier members.

I like this idea, but I'm sot sure how well it would work. Seems like it would somehow manage to cause a problem. I'm not sure what though.

One downside that comes to mind is that there are several site builders who are builders for multiple sites, and thus would have multiple sites to take care of--really no different than the mods now. Another is that not every site HAS a builder, the largest one that comes to mind being Bambi Source. (It gets more stuff than one might think.)

That's their choice, surely? xD
If they can handle all the sources site building duties, surely they could handle activation and Must-See picks?

As for Bambi Source not even having a builder - surely it should have one? That seems like more an over-sight in management rather than anything else. It finally having a site builder would also be a pro, no?


Why the sudden change of opinion? O.o
Before you said you had no issues with it, now it's just "it might cause a problem but I don't know what" - technically anything "might" cause a problem, if you think of a potential maybe edit that in so people could talk about it?

I changed my mind after I posted that. My only concern is that it may somehow interfere with the mods. Like a drawing that may have been on hold because they weren't sure of it, and they were discussing it in the mods box.

I can't see why such a thing would ever be an issue. It's either okay to be on the site or it's not.
The mods can easily just tell the builders if such a thing ever arose, there's only 2-3 builders per Source so a quick PM saying "Don't do anything with this image/fic/etc. we're currently working on resolving a problem regarding it, thanks!" copy-pasted to them would take all of 5 minutes.

^ I can see your logic in that.

Yes, but would it then become restricted to ask to be a site builder? ~._.^ (Though I'm not sure whether it is or isn't at the moment). That also may blur the line between moderator and builder.

As far as I can see I don't know why it would be.
Technically someone could do more "damage" as a site builder than a mod, with having access to the bits to build the source and everything as opposed to just ... banning everyone?
Like I said, there'd be no access to the moderation pages aside from activating things. No ability to warn or ban anyone.

Plus it's not like someone could ask to be a site builder and then just not do anything, Steet & GreyWolf keep an eye on what people are doing so if someone asked to be a site builder on MovieSource and then didn't do anything they'd know - plus they could only do anything on the site they're builder for.
So if someone wants to cause mischief and asks to be a builder to do so they would only have access to the un-activated work-in-progress source anyway, seeing as new sources don't "go live" until Steet says so (assuming that's still the way it's done) so it would rather like an exercise in futility. xD

EXCELLENT idea. I can't even express how /bored/ I am as site builder because it gives me nothing to do. I add official characters when suggested and update the poll when necessary with what good subjects come along. Otherwise I wait on programming to come along via steet to finish the Timon & Pumbaa section, which never happened...
I really have nothing to do and would of COURSE jump back into the opportunity of helping with activations.
I fully support this suggestion.

But what if the site builders don't WANT to do that? When TYSS launches, I will be listed as a Site Builder. But I don't want to spend my time activating creations.

(What is TYSS? o: I don't know that one.)

&& Ask for another Site Builder?
Personally I think it's best for the site to have 2 builders, that way there's someone else to bounce ideas off and help each other out.
Honestly, once a Source is built and released there's nothing more to do 90% of the time. Until a good new idea surfaces for a new page or you can think of something to stick in a News Post or Poll you just sort of sit around twiddling your thumbs. I've resorted to just going back and re-doing pages in the past because there was tumbleweed bouncing through the site building panel.

I've always thought it pretty much fits into a site builder job anyway, at least from what I was told when I was made one for SS. Keep the source active and interesting - fan content keeps the source active and interesting, no?

I, for one, totally love this idea. I normally don't care much about handling complaints and the whole warning/banning system, although I've dealt with it all before. I'm the person going through the creations filtering things out and for one, would love this too. I don't see anything wrong with it, some site builders if they don't want to activate, get another site builder to do the activation. :']

TYSS is Toy Story Source.

I just feel that this would almost make site builders regular mods with a different name. Not to mention, site builders have PLENTY to do as it is; their job is to maintain the Sources. It's the mods' jobs to keep things in order.

I disagree with that, Skul. Just because site builders are site builders, doesn't mean they have to we be working 24/7. Yes, their job is to maintain the site, but I think you misinterpret that. A builder only needs to update out of date things, fix errors (not glitches, only Steet has the power to do so), and add something if necessary, and post fan news. But all the time? No. So being busy? Not really. I probably could be considering the character pages are messed up, but I don't want to take action because I don't know whether or not that will affect the French side. So until I know for certain this will be fixed, or it won't cause a problem on the French side, I'm not going to take action.

But like Paxis said, being a builder is a pretty boring job. You eventually run out of things to do after awhile. I know I said I wasn't sure on the idea (and the concern has since been resolved), but I have not been against it. So I don't see why builders can't lend out a hand and help with other things. We're on the staff, we might as well make ourselves useful when we don't have anything else to do.