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 Post subject: The Three Musketeers
PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:46 am 
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This movie looks Bad*** bigtime, main reason I I want to see this movie is because Mila. Aka Alice from Resident Evil slicing the crap out of people. Crazy action so I look forward to seeing it^^

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 Post subject: Re: The Three Musketeers
PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:37 am 
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Because it "looks Bad*** bigtime". Hmm. What a reason to see a movie. And certainly the idea of Mila Jovovich "slicing the crap out of people" is one heck of a good reason to watch a movie, right? (Yeah, no.)

Firstly, I have never envisioned going to see an adaptation of Alexandre Dumas' classic tale of chivalry and intrigue in 16th century France because it was...ahem..."bad***". I always envisioned going because I was going to see a good rendering of Dumas' story, which would be true to the author's intent at least, and true to even a nineteenth century author's vision of Renaissance France. NOT because I wanted to see some vacuous, effects-laden Pirates of the Caribbean/League of Extraordinary Gentlemen ripoff (references also made in the reviews I quoted from below...which are exceedingly accurate comparisons, though I like PoTC and LOEG on their own merits), with accompanying bad acting.

Secondly, there will never be a better role for Mila than her first...in the movie The Fifth Element (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119116). Not this latest piece of idiocy, not the Resident Evil movies, nothing.

Thirdly, for far greater adaptations of the original Dumas story (and its related stories), I will stick with Disney's The Three Musketeers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108333), Twentieth Century Fox's The Three Musketeers (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072281), their sequel The Four Musketeers: Milady's Revenge (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073012), or even MGM/United Artists' The Man In The Iron Mask (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120744). They are each FAR better, in my view, than what I have seen of this latest farce. And it is said, among those who love movies of this kind, that the 1973 Twentieth Century Fox version is still the best. I prefer the Disney one, but I can hardly argue that the other is a great theatrical work.





I have yet to see a good review of this movie. And I have not seen it myself, and thoroughly refuse to waste my time and money on it. All I have seen of the official movie website, the reviews, the IMDB page, trailers and so on have capped it for me as a complete train wreck. Yet another stupid, effects-heavy piece of tripe which caters to an audience of numbskulls fed on years of instant-gratification electronics rather than good literature and even movies with real plot, scripting, acting and directing.

A few selected comments, which I found particularly interesting, from the various reviews I have read (I have colored the text to better separate them):

(from http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/21/us-reviews-film-threemuskateers-idUSTRE79K5L820111021)

"Look, just because people have been reading and loving Alexandre Dumas' novel for more than 160 years, why not bloat it with needless stuntwork and special effect gimcrackery? Rip off 'Pirates of the Caribbean' to your heart's content, filmmakers, but leave poor Dumas out of it.

Of course, it's not just the 19th century French author who bears the brunt of the abuse here — the cast is unanimously ill-served by the material. Let's start with the vapid, mush-mouthed Logan Lerman, who's more Mousketeer than Musketeer. His shaggy-haired, surfer-dude demeanor would be perfect for a Disney Channel 'Dogtown and Z-Boys' sitcom, but it's jarringly out of place here."


"I weep for those who will have their first exposure to this material by way of this bloated, moronic mess of a movie. Pick up the book, rent the unparalleled 1973 Richard Lester version -- heck, even the old Classics Illustrated comic-book leaves this thing in the dust.

On its own demerits, 'The Three Musketeers' is a soul-draining experience, but as an adaptation of one of the definitive tales of derring-do, it's an argument against letting novels go into the public domain."


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(from http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_three_musketeers_2011)

"Stiff, baby-faced Lerman could be the Mouseketeer in the Iron Mask ... In spots this blend of Dumas and 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' sparks to life as the perfect Saturday matinee for 12-year-olds."

"It's all for nothing, nothing much for all."


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(from http://www.washingtonpost.com/gog/movies/the-three-musketeers-3d,1164781/critic-review.html)

"The comic-book style and 3D CGI effects turn a story loosely based on historical events into one that's utterly detached from anybody's real life, now or then."

"What's lacking is a swashbuckling sensibility. The movie needn't realistically evoke the 17th century, but it should have something of the spirit of Dumas's 1840s, or Errol Flynn's 1930s. Instead, it's blandly contemporary. This "Three Musketeers" packs all the chivalry, heroism and camaraderie of Wii Fencing."


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(from http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2052345/The-Three-Musketeers-flops-box-office-star-Milla-Jovovich-slams-film-distributor-making-effort.html)

"The film, which had an estimated $80 million budget, took a poor $2.9 million at 3,017 theatres in the U.S. on Friday for an estimated $8 million weekend, according to Deadline.com."


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 Post subject: Re: The Three Musketeers
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:04 pm 
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That movie was awesome! But Resident evil movies are her best by far, truely pushed her to the limit and is well known for her action roles in RE over any other movie, the fifth element was awesome but her best roles will always be Resident evil, when it comes to action she owns mainly for RE, the action in RE dominates the fifth element by far.

Main reason people loved the fifth element was because of bruce cuz back then he well got all the girls attention and still does, not many knew much about Mila from that movie, it was RE where everyone fell in love with her^^

Personaly I think the TTM is over all corny as all hell, and wouldn't bother to see it if she was not in it, because if she's in any movie you know you will get the most promising action not to mention she's drop dead hot^^ and seeing her kick and toss people around is most guys dream girl, any female who pulls off what she does and looks damn fine while doing it is purely awesome.

I'm also not a fan of history crap no offence, unless its remade to please the viewers^^ and don't give much of a crap about storyline of historical movies, there is few exceptions though, this being one of them because of her, and anyone who knows her work look forward to seeing most movies she is in, sorry yo I'm not much of a history buff lol

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:44 pm 
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Ecliptica wrote:
That movie was awesome! But Resident evil movies are her best by far, truely pushed her to the limit and is well known for her action roles in RE over any other movie, the fifth element was awesome but her best roles will always be Resident evil, when it comes to action she owns mainly for RE, the action in RE dominates the fifth element by far.

Main reason people loved the fifth element was because of bruce cuz back then he well got all the girls attention and still does, not many knew much about Mila from that movie, it was RE where everyone fell in love with her^^

Well we're going to have to agree to disagree on that. Firstly, while The Fifth Element most certainly was (and still measures up as) an awesome movie, I will always prefer the action in it to any of the Resident Evil movies. Mutant zombies just don't do it for me...neither does a zombie hunter.

(In any case, I have yet to see any movie, based upon a video game, that was worth the money I spent on it either in the theater or in rentals.)

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Personaly I think the TTM is over all corny as all hell, and wouldn't bother to see it if she was not in it, because if she's in any movie you know you will get the most promising action not to mention she's drop dead hot^^ and seeing her kick and toss people around is most guys dream girl, any female who pulls off what she does and looks damn fine while doing it is purely awesome.

Mila is quite fine. And sexy as all get-out. And she tosses around bad guys as well as any female or male action hero(-ine). Nevertheless, in a Three Musketeers movie, tossing people around and kicking tail is not the overriding theme or intent. It is about chivalry and court intrigue in Renaissance France. Not bombs exploding, gratuitous violence-laden, anachronistic blimp-flying, effects-heavy garbage just to draw in a certain audience which is generally incapable of following a more complex and rich story on its own merits, and which remains truer to the source material. And, like it or not, the villain Milady DeWinter was always written as, and designed to be PRESENTED as, a seductress of deadly cunning and skill. She used her beauty and womanhood to draw in her victims, not "a**-kicking". That is a pedantic and pathetic corruption of an otherwise fantastic character.

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I'm also not a fan of history crap no offence, unless its remade to please the viewers^^ and don't give much of a crap about storyline of historical movies, there is few exceptions though, this being one of them because of her, and anyone who knows her work look forward to seeing most movies she is in, sorry yo I'm not much of a history buff lol

History is not "crap". That aside, my previous point had nothing whatsoever to do with actual history, and there is no implication that Alexandre Dumas was trying to write an historical epic. He was writing a story, as I have said, of court intrigue and chivalry in Renaissance France. But even in historically-inspired fiction (based upon elements of the real world), one plus one MUST equal two. Throw in a blimp, or twist Milady deWinter (as an example) into "Alice", and all of a sudden it no longer equals two, but one big fat zero. And the critiques I quoted more than aptly support that notion.


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