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cookiedough17
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Post subject: They could of done so much more Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:34 pm |
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Balto would of been better without a sequel but we all know its all about money. They could of atleast made the sequel actually follow on from the first movie. Like what happened to steele, nikki, kaltag , star, sylvie, dixie. Every sequel to a movie is about the kids of the hero and heroine of the first movie so wolf quest is not in the slightest bit original. Even with low budget they could think up an idea of a sequel that hasn't been used yet. If the story was better and the characters were good it would atleast make it watchable even with the not so good animation.
What do you think? Do you think they could of made a better story line for Balto 2?
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Breeze the Collie
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:59 am |
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Of course they could have. They could have reflected the first movie more, without adding crazy spirit crap, but hey, they didn't. All they really wanted was an 'ok' script that would keep kids quiet and alright animation. Jumping on the Disney straight-to-dvd bandwagon, which used low budget television animation and okay to incredibly ridiculous scripts. Heck, they didn't even care enough about it to get Kevin Bacon back, it seems. :/
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cookiedough17
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:58 pm |
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yeah they should of brought kevin bacon back as the voice of balto his voice suited balto alot better than the the voice in balto 2 and 3. That spiritual crap and the who I am crap never made sense.
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BaltoSeppala
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:57 am |
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cookiedough17 wrote: yeah they should of brought kevin bacon back as the voice of balto his voice suited balto alot better than the the voice in balto 2 and 3. That spiritual crap and the who I am crap never made sense. Try not to go overboard with the "crap" thing, Cookiedough. Actually, it is quite possible that, with the sequels (and the limited budgets which they would have been saddled with for each), they probably couldn't afford to hire Kevin Bacon back. And/or he wasn't available to do the sequels. Either is a possibility. And Maurice LaMarche actually did a very good job giving a bit of age to Balto's voice. After all, Kevin Bacon did good voicing Balto as a young dog (concurrent, I believe, with Kodi's approximate age in Balto 3). I see no fault in their choosing a voice actor who could lend a bit of maturity and age to Balto's voice for the sequels. And LaMarche is a VERY good voice actor.
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DetectiveRJ
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:27 am |
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It's not like LaMarche and Bacon don't sound alike. I always thought Balto sounded pretty much the same throughout the three sequels (except older, as Jersey has pointed out), I wouldn't even know they've changed the voice actor if it wasn't for LaMarche's name in the credits. It could've been worse, a hell of a lot worse. Like Homer Simpson as the Genie in The Return of Jafar worse.
I mean, right now, Bacon is 54 and sounds very much like LaMarche, so you probably would've gotten the same result in 2002, when he was 44. That aside, I don't really get the LaMarche dislike either. Kevin Bacon wasn't a professional voice actor when he voiced Balto, LaMarche, meanwhile, has a lot of voice work experience under his belt. Don't get your torches and pitchforks out but during the first Balto, all I could see was Kevin Bacon in a recording studio, recording the lines. I couldn't connect with the character at all because Bacon didn't seem to connect with him. Maybe I'm being way too critical but I felt like LaMarche was really into playing Balto - why else would he give it a second shot in Balto 3? - and was enjoying his role enough to make it convincing. He wasn't Oscar-worthy but, then again, neither was Bacon.
I mean, take a look at Jim Cummings. Professional voice actor, like LaMarche, and I connected far more with Steele than I did with Balto in the first movie because of his performance.
The things the sequels failed at were the plots, the detachment from the original (in regards to Balto 2) and the animation. The voice acting wasn't something that bothered me. It's kinda like saying that Jean Smart is a terrible actress because she played Stella, when, in fact, it was the fault of the scriptwriters (who were the original writers from the first film btw) for introducing that character in the first place and giving her lines that were really cliche and irritating.
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BaltoSeppala
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:08 pm |
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DetectiveRJ wrote: It's not like LaMarche and Bacon don't sound alike. I always thought Balto sounded pretty much the same throughout the three sequels (except older, as Jersey has pointed out), I wouldn't even know they've changed the voice actor if it wasn't for LaMarche's name in the credits. It could've been worse, a hell of a lot worse. See now that's exactly what I have always thought about the two people who played Balto. Exactly. Well said. Of course, I pretty much agree with almost everything in your post, RJ.
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Keelix
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:20 pm |
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Well, I didn't just like the voices, but I didn't hate them. I probably would've liked them more if I thought about him aging, and not just another different voice actor.
I never did think that they sounded the same, but that's just me. I don't know why a lot of people attack Alue's voice though. "Her voice cracks and is annoying"... She's a teenager.. She's supposed to sound young.
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Keelix
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:06 pm |
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Yeah, I'll admit that his voice acting seemed a little.. bland. But I think his voice was perfect for him. XD
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BaltoSeppala
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:22 pm |
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Keelix wrote: I never did think that they sounded the same, but that's just me. I don't know why a lot of people attack Alue's voice though. "Her voice cracks and is annoying"... She's a teenager.. She's supposed to sound young. You picked apart Balto 3 in another post to a minute level, but you cannot spell Aleu's name correctly? People in the fandom pick at Aleu because she so accurately reflects the contradictory and temperamental (and immature) nature of an adolescent. And of a daughter in conflict with her father. Even if it could have been written better, MAYBE, the basic idea was a very good one. But as a character, she IS a bit over the top with the "I hate you, papa" nonsense. As to her voice? I would suppose that people just cannot handle Lacey Chabert's tinny, mousy vocal timbre. And I hardly blame them.
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cookiedough17
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:32 pm |
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Sorry about the crap thing. Yeah probably because he sounds older It sounds different. I agree that Aleu's voice is annoying its high pitched and sounds like a kids voice.
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BaltoSeppala
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:37 pm |
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cookiedough17 wrote: Sorry about the crap thing. Yeah probably because he sounds older It sounds different. I agree that Aleu's voice is annoying its high pitched and sounds like a kids voice. Because she is supposed to be a kid. As much as teens hate to admit it, being an adolescent, until you're of legal age, which is 18 as a legal boundary...but really 25 physically and psychologically, they ARE kids. That is an accepted concept in most first-world societies on this planet. And most teens deride on the character because she so reminds them of everything about being an adolescent which can be construed as negative, self-absorbed, immature, emotionally-volatile and just plain stupid. That is, until almost the end of the movie.
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cookiedough17
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:45 pm |
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I always thought dogs were adults by the time they are 1 year old. This thread was more about how it would be better if the storyline was different. Like its the same as every other sequel about the hero's kid.
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DetectiveRJ
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Post subject: Re: They could of done so much more Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:07 pm |
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Keelix wrote: Yeah, I'll admit that his voice acting seemed a little.. bland. But I think his voice was perfect for him. XD I don't think a 'bland' voice is perfect for a character that is meant to be determined and stubborn and who will go from one end of Alaska to another to save dying children but, meh, whatever floats your boat. xDD I just have a respect for LaMarche for letting the character develop and for at least breaking monotone when it's needed. Like Cat said, Bacon's 'oh, lord, I'm getting crushed by snow' scream leaves a lot to be desired. There was a lot more emotion in LaMarche's scream/yelling when he got pushed off that log and into a uncontrollable river in the second film and that wasn't really a 'instant death' situation. A very nit-picky example but, yeah.
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