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So after rule changes we were left with promises and again, nobody cares.
After huge staff removal and leaving only global mods, this site is being poorly managed, with so little staff for so many sources and forums. And now since most of the staff left it get even worse. I can seriously name only 3 or 4 mods who still care what happens on the site and only two who are actively dealing with reports. 90% of site staff (including builders) left or are coming here rarely, not even doing their job.
I know that choosing proper people "needs time", but when did you say that? If you really cared, those changes would have been made already. This site can't change if there is no staff change so far!

And I appreciate Hecate, Nakou and other French staff that are trying to help. I realize that there's not much you can do with this laziness anyway.

I fullheartedly agree with you. There's too much work and not enough responsible mods. (obviously you just said that..but still.) You're not alone with this thinking.

Yes to all of the above.

Take a glance at the staff page of any Source. You know their names but have you actually seen them around? Or file a report, and then count the number of days it takes to be closed; then, count the total number of reports that have been closed, and among those, count the number of mods who closed them. Chances are it will take DAYS to get treated, and it will be one of maybe two or three mods. The other seven - a VAST majority - are never around on this site.

We were promised change for the better, and we were promised such more than six months ago. Half a year is a LONG time for a website, especially when promises were made. We have new rules; that's terrific, and honestly the site has never been as drama-free. But rules aren't enough; we need mods who can enforce them. Regularly. We don't have that now. Half the staff are there in name only; I can name at least two who have permanently left the site. We have several members who visit every day and have been mods in the past--SEVERAL. Regardless of number, it's way more than are currently on the staff.

If we expect Animation Source to maintain its quality, we MUST have a staff overhaul. Get rid of the inactive staff, replace them with reliable, active members. Key word here: reliable. In real life, if you don't show up for your job, you're fired. If you don't do your job to the best of your abilities, you're fired. If you prove over and over that you cannot be trusted to do your job, you're fired. Why should it be any different here? On Animation Source, the only penalty I see for slacking off as a mod is being left on the staff page. Multiple members are capable of doing the jobs the current mods either neglect or refuse to do. Give them the reins. Let them HELP the site!

/rant

EDIT: new mods. good job. do well.

Now before I begin, I reaaaally hate to be the one that does this. My apologies ahead of time, I'm so sorry. But anyway..
We need more than 2 or 3 active mods. But I don't mean necessarily grab the nicest people to come up to you and kiss butt, I mean the people who spend their free time mainly on the sources (nor the mods that deactivate/removed everything if it doesn't appeal to them, beings we've maybe had a few of those) and take responsibility. And fast.
Recently there's been a lot of talk on the shoutbox when no mods are around referring to sexual things and drugs, even if the new rule is enforced. I realize there's no kids that come here and I don't really care about the whole "kiddie friendly and family fun! flowers, rainbows, woohoo!" thing, but is this really the place to do it?
Another thing, people have been bashing the new mods over and over again. Well, hate to burst all of your little bubbles, but keep in mind these few active mods are what really improve the site. C'mon, let's be serious here; there's not going to be a mod who sits on their computer 24/7 if a little argument breaks out at 3 in the morning. Stop. Complaining. Some of you have mentioned that you can do much better, but if you really could, you probably would be modded. These couple mods are inspirational and helpful and need more credit as they have tons of sources to run here. But that's on the mod side.
So I've decided to address the situation, as the complainers haven't. We need more mods. Does anyone even have any ideas and for whom?
Comment with your ideas.
And if this post seems offensive, it's NOT signaling anyone out. I promise. It goes towards the majority of those.

The news posts lately aren't so much new rules though. They've been around for a while but we just brought it back up as a reminder since there's been an increase of the issue.

As for the topic, I honestly don't have any ideas off the top of my head at the moment. It's not easy finding members responsible, available and mature enough to be a mod, especially these days. :/

In the end though, it may just be what you already said. No one is going to be around the site at 3am. Steet doesn't do anything new now, so we can't just ask for a system that would be able to catch those things on the SBs when we're not there. Of new mods then, what we would need are ones that can be up and checking the sites around those times. Maybe from other time zones.

Duhh... Suddenly people expect you to be here all day and see every little thing. And then people blame mods because members break the rules. "Wut we have new mods and some members STILL break the rules?! HERESY!"


Some people fom American time zones would do. Maybe if some inactive mods did their job, we wouldn't need new mods but uh.... I don't want to name anyone, but there ARE some mods that come here about once a month just for 5 minutes, do nothing then leave.
Oh, and definitely not someone who's going around with their "I can do better, make me a mod!" stuff.

Oops, sorry about that. That's what I meant though.



Unfortunately, that's very true. I would almost like to put a "Mod applications open" thing out, just to see who would sign up.



^ Pretty much this here. Most of the mods that we have are from different countries, but we have very few American mods to help out for the time zones, and the ones we do have do not come online.




The other day, someone was online and posted a curse word and then when I called him out on it, he said "Other people do it, and this is not that bad compared to that". Kinda worries me. xD



Definitely. Most of the mods are irresponsible, but there's only like 3 that actually work and do their job. And the members wonder why the minimal staff gets annoyed at them so fast. xD

In which case you'd get everyone and their dog applying.

Most people don't realize that being a mod is a real JOB. It involves work (despite most of the current mods not doing any...) There are over a dozen sites to manage, and even if most are inactive, all of them require attention at some point throughout a typical day. The ones that need a LOT of care are the more active ones, which is understandable, but they need more than people who just activate stuff. They need mods who are willing to sit down for hours at a time, sort through pages and pages of fan creations, and decide if something is still worth staying on the site. One of our new mods, for example, has spent weeks going through the characters section on Balto Source, getting rid of unrelated or sparkle characters. WEEKS. How many people can be willing to do that? I'm sure many THINK they're willing, but when they sit down and begin, they'd probably find out very quickly that they aren't as willing as they first thought.

That's probably part of the reason we have so many inactive mods. They probably thought that being a mod meant that you just ban trolls and activate fan art all day. That's not the case at all, and once they found that out, they probably realized that they would just as soon not be mods. If I were to have a preference, I'd like at least one mod on at all times, which means a different mod for each continent (except Antarctica, for obvious reasons), who would be willing to get on as often as they can throughout a typical day. There was a troll on Balto Source a few days ago, during an American afternoon, and I was dismayed that the ONLY mod who was on was one of the French mods. We have over half a dozen American mods here and none of them were on; all but one or two haven't been on at ALL in the past month. I agree, we need more American mods for when situations like that show up, but how are they to be chosen? It is not a job for just anyone; and believe me, it IS a job. It takes dedication and motivation to make yourself a worthy mod.

Well, that was just my 2c worth.

I'm gonna jump in here, for one of my extremely rare appearances, and just say, "I told you so" in regards to the mod thing being a "job". I can't count the number of people who told my on numerous occasions that I was lucky to be a mod (you know, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, or whatever). So, yeah, there you go.

I'll agree, we need more staff, I looked at all your post and I was just unhappy at the inactive mods, I think you should remove them after two months of nonworking unless their on vacation like a cruise or something?