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Hi there. Newbie here. I made some pics on DA Street liked so I've sent them to be validated in the gallery. Until then here's the DA links:

'The BARE Necessities':

http://e-122-psi.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2sensu

'Jungle Becky':

http://e-122-psi.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2vdqri

'Jungle Kit':

http://e-122-psi.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2wnml0

'Jungle Molly':

http://e-122-psi.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2xhsp5


Tried to employ Jungle Book style and proportioning onto the Talespin cast. One of those 'surprised no one else tried it' type concepts really. I admit the proportions still maybe look a bit too anthro, especially for Becky (I tried very hard not to place Rule 34 on her) and might still need to refine working on the original movie's design style.

An interesting concept in theory though, who knows, maybe if Talespin doesn't get another chance in the spotlight, as a runner up idea they could adapt some characters into the next inevitable Jungle Book rehash.

Those are really good! I especially liked Molly's pic. She's so cute! You just wanna hug her. But watch out for the claws. Yeowch!

I like the concept - taking TS back to the Jungle Book. Come to think about it, I wrote a fic a long, long time ago along those lines. Maybe I should dig it out and dust it off.

Boy, I hope that Disney doesn't rehash The Jungle Book again. I couldn't stand the first sequel. It seemed that every time the writers hit a plot line snag, they made the characters sing "The Bear Necessities". It got a little old. The only thing I truly enjoyed about that movie was hearing Tony Jay as Shere Khan.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I like your pics!

And even Jay's involvement was skewed by typecasting him and trying to convert Shere Khan into a 'Frollo in Tiger suit'. A shame it might have been interesting to hear his take on the more comical variant of the character used in the original film. You have to give props to Jim Cummings as Kaa as well though (I heard he was planned to voice King Louie as well had copyright complications not occured just beforehand).

The sequel wasn't brilliant but then again it's not the only reuse of the film, there were two reinvisionments of it's concepts (three had B-Players ever got off the ground) along with a few House of Mouse cameos. Jungle Cubs, while no work of art, was a more decent attempt at the 'franchise in baby form' concept, not to mention the neat DVD wraparounds with their adult forms (all voiced by their Talespin VAs no less). Actually spin offs and variants of Disney works tend to fare better than direct follow ups, and let's face facts, the Jungle Book is likely going to be recycled for some media of sorts at some point in time.

Anyway, thanx for commenting. Yeah I like them with those poseable claws for some reason, they're perhaps the reason I prefer Baloo's Jungle Book design.

So someone DID think of it before me. I guess I just like putting characters into different styles and concepts (anyone who's seen my Sonic work will probably know what I mean). I've also made sketches trying to put unused characters from the Kipling novel into Disney form such as Tabaqui the jackal.

Might be worth dusting off your fanfic. I did have this vague story concept of Rebecca being a domesticated bear from a circus or zoo that escaped into the jungle (thus keeping to her concept of being a culturally advanced but life-inept character), I've yet to put any of it into written or drawn form however.

These are great I like the style. As you said, I would have made the characters less anthro, for example giving Becky long (wild?) hair instead of the hairstyle she has in TaleSpin. But they are still great nonetheless.

I think the sequel to Jungle Book wasn't too bad, but it wasn't necessary either. It's way too much like the original actually. Why couldn't they have made a TaleSpin direct-to-video film instead...that would have been much more interesting (considering it's a series, it's very easy to make new stories, instead of a film which was NOT meant to be given a sequel!) and maybe it could have been even a better seller in the long term!


Maybe even sooner than you think : Epic Mickey is featuring a Jungle world, which is rumored to be a Jungle Book world. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the characters appearing! (and I really hope it will!) Not the TaleSpin characters though, considering Warren Spector (lead director) never watched the series.

Thanx. Noticed they've been validated and are on the site now.

The hair was actually one element I was less concerned about considering some of the cartoony hairstyles that made it onto some of the characters in the film (eg. the Beatles-esque vultures), the designs were rather wacky after all which allowed for SOME leaway in how much anthropomorphism could be used. Making her a bit shaggier I admit may have toned down the 'naked' aspect of her form though.



I guess they thought Jungle Book would be more familiar to a wider audience and thus draw bigger audiences (it is probably that very reason they made so many sequels of established films to begin with rather than making new less familar projects). It did at least make it into theater I guess (though I heard it's poor box office sales caused some of the later higher quality sequels to get switched straight to DVD, the surprisingly good Bambi 2 was planned for a theatrical release for example).

The Jungle Book 2 was essentially a lower quality remake of the original, it indeed had no other purpose than to put the characters on screen again. Outside maybe Mowgli's 'man village' there was little expansion on the cast or story. If they really wanted to redo the Jungle Book they could have at least used a new story (eg. adapted one of the other books) or concept (akin to Talespin or Jungle Cubs). Look at Winnie The Pooh for example, similar adaption to the Jungle Book but worked because they expanded the cast and stories outside the books to keep it alive for multiple movies and even two TV series.



I heard a Jungle Book world was planned for Kingdom Hearts as well but dumped due to similarities to the Tarzan one, maybe it will get considered for one of the sequels.

Well it does at least look like Disney is remembering the Disney Afternoon shows from the 90s and considering bringing them back to life. Let's just hope Talespin is amongst those plans.

Actually it was released in theaters in Europe (well at least in France) I didn't think they would stop making 2D animated films at the time, otherwise I would have gone to see it...



It was considered for the original, AND the newest "Birth By Sleep" game. Actually some of the Jungle Book world was already created and are still on the game disk.

I only hope the reason it was removed wasn't because of the lawsuit with Prima's widow...Will this keep the character Louie from appearing forever? (and keep Disney from avoiding anything related to Jungle Book/Talespin at the same time)


It's a slow process, but at least some companies like Boom! Studios are considering them. (I'm not sure I would say "Disney" yet, as they have little to do with the new Disney Afternoon comics apart from licencing) And, you know how much I would like new TaleSpin comics...


About your drawings, have you considered more characters to be remade into "Jungle Book style"? Like Don Karnage for example. I think this would be tricky to do though

Yeah I think Britain got a theatrical release too.

From what I know the copyright despute over Louie occured around 2000/2001 before the sequel, hense why Louie didn't appear (House of Mouse also seemed to parody this situation with 'King Larry', the show also frequently using characters from the movie). From what it seems the despute only causes problems depicting Louie's voice and mannerisms, from what I know Louie still appears as a Disneyland mascot and I just recently saw jigsaws and birthday cards with Baloo and Louie's image on them in shop shelves.

Well as in companies linked to Disney anyways. Obviously Boom need some element of connection with Disney to gain the liscence. Either way, people that can put these ideas in action seem to be looking into it so hopefully there are some Talespin fans among them, I know you're not the only one who wants a Talespin comic series anyway.

As for other characters, may give it a shot later, as said though some of the other characters may be a bit more complex to 'de anthro' than the bears. I might also try out other 'adaptions' like Jungle Book into Talespin (come on, tell me a Talespin style Kaa wouldn't be awesome, My Fair Baloo not withstanding) or some of Kipling characters unused in the Disney film (eg. Tabaqui, Riki Ravi).

Sorry to double post, I've tried refining Rebecca's design slightly, making her a little pudgier and shaggier so as to make her more on par with a cute furry bear than a 'naked' anthro. Which do you think is better?:

Normal people would not think of applying the goddamned rule 34 while drawing a furry/cartoon character. This rule 34 is something, that needs to be torn in pieces by nuclear missiles, trampled down by army boots and crushed by the tank tracks.
But you did a great job. You've made a spit into the mugs of all yiffers out there, who only need to be thrown into prison camps and forced to do penal labour. The notorious rule 34 is one of the reasons why Internet access is so limited in North Korea.

Um......thanks?

The sad thing is that due to how media generally proportions females, it is now natural to feel this sort of awkwardness about 'naked' female animal characters. Only a few known examples exist in kids media (eg. Penelope Pussycat, Kanga, Fefe la Fume, Sally Acorn, the latter being rather infamous due to how some professional artists draw her). Making them much less human like fixes a lot of key problems, which I tried to do here (Molly wasn't hard due to basically being a smaller Kit with eyelashes design wise, though Rebecca does have noticably more humanoid proportioning, though granted it's not nearly as bad as how some medias proportion female characters).

It's fine, don't worry about it. I've seen fifty thousand times worse on fur affinity. that stuff is terrifying

It can be very tricky to design a female cartoon animal with no clothing without raising a few eyebrows or getting letters in your inbox from concerned parents...

Though sometimes you can tell they're just trying to push the limit with some such characters

That's true, I mean you ever read some of the Sonic Archie comics made in the late nineties, creepy.

Simplicity may be the key, most male characters' designs seem to be composed more of basic shapes rather than realistic and potentially suggestive atonomy. Baloo's whole body is basically a big rounded triangle, his limbs are also exagerrative (his stumpy legs for example). Becky's original form does kinda have this element to a lesser extent, albeit kinda opposite balance on her limbs, her arms seem kinda tiny with wide longer legs making her even more 'triangular' in her body form.

I have sketched Becky a bit more since then and I think I'm making a better compromise of both her animal and anthro traits:

http://e-122-psi.deviantart.com/gallery ... s#/d33nwxa

Might need more practice on the other characters though.

More sketchwork of the cubs:

Bearsitting:

http://e-122-psi.deviantart.com/gallery ... s#/d381mon

I think I'm getting better at Baloo at least.

Less Talespin-related, I tried doing one of the unadapted Jungle Book characters in Disney Style as well (it has Baloo and Shere Khan on it at least):

Disney-style Tabaqui:

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&secti ... i#/d37xukp

I'm having an odd problem uploading a new pic on the site right now (saying I'm not logged in on the main site though it's fine on the forum) so I'll leave a link here for now since Street requested this pic be put up:

Baloo vs Becky:

http://e-122-psi.deviantart.com/gallery ... s#/d3bqeb6

I'll have to scan some sketches of their actual Talespin forms at some point.

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