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Is it necessary for you to comment on the length of my post? No one else seemed to have a problem with it. If you can't handle a few short paragraphs, don't participate.

As to your opinion, while you're entitled to it, the fact is that the package of the movie DVD says, and I quote: "the true story of an American hero". That obviates what you said. Totally.

Okay, um, just because I commented on the length of your post doesn't mean that I have a problem with it. The reason why I am participating is because I can handle a few short paragraphs. I have handled many essays before, and I write essays myself too... Why on earth are you antagonising me? I simply disagreed with you at several points, it doesn't mean that it is alright for you to adopt a porcupine position whenever you see me?

Moreover, now we know that the movie isn't depicting the true story, so it means the person who made the DVD cover or whatever lied. The fact does not change, the movie does not in reality represent the true story, because if it does, there wouldn't be so many deviations. The person who made the DVD cover lied, but it doesn't mean that it is mandated for the movie fan to learn or appreciate the true story. You're entitled to your opinion, but I am sensing enmity here, from you, that is.

Who's antagonizing whom again? Allow me to refresh:


You throw out a comment like that, you're not exactly going to get a pat on the back and a "well said!"


You act like a noob, you reap the consequences.


It is patently ridiculous, and blatantly libelous, to accuse anyone involved in the production, or subsequent marketing, of the first Balto movie, of "lying". And a stupid presumption. Not a single person involved, either on the part of Amblimation or Universal, "lied" about anything. At worst they merely exaggerated or erred.


Using your "logic" from another post, I'd LOOOOVE for you to demonstrate for me, any place on this site (the forum or on Balto Source) where anyone (especially me) said "it is mandated for each of you to learn and appreciate the true story of Balto! Do it!"


There is no enmity on this end. Frustration with your noobish behavior and lack of appreciation for the rules? And obvious attempts to instigate? Yes. Plenty. I am telling you that you have to stop this before it gets any further out of hand, and I am insisting that you stop muddling up my topic with flame baiting and irrelevant argument.

I am not going to argue this point, or any other, with you here anymore either. I am simply going to keep reporting you. And you'll find yourself just where you said you hoped you wouldn't be.

Go read the rules again, and keep at it until you understand what they're telling you.

"WOW! That's a really long post. Um... If that member had offered the same opinion without using a swear word, I think it's perfectly okay to be there.

My opinion: The actual true story of Balto is not absolutely essential to this movie fan site. After all, the movie does not represent the true story of Balto, not all fans of the movie are fans of the true Balto as well. Anyway, that's my opinion. And I hope I hit the mark this time on relevance."

I came here to post a brief comment on your post with answer to the questions you posted in your original post. But then you're the one who came fuming and breathing fire. Who would have thought a harmless comment like that would produce this mess?

"Okay, um, just because I commented on the length of your post doesn't mean that I have a problem with it. The reason why I am participating is because I can handle a few short paragraphs. I have handled many essays before, and I write essays myself too... Why on earth are you antagonising me? I simply disagreed with you at several points, it doesn't mean that it is alright for you to adopt a porcupine position whenever you see me?

Moreover, now we know that the movie isn't depicting the true story, so it means the person who made the DVD cover or whatever lied. The fact does not change, the movie does not in reality represent the true story, because if it does, there wouldn't be so many deviations. The person who made the DVD cover lied, but it doesn't mean that it is mandated for the movie fan to learn or appreciate the true story. You're entitled to your opinion, but I am sensing enmity here, from you, that is."

You quoted me in part by picking on the parts you thought you could refute, you made negative assumptions about me, announced them and then refused to prove those claims. That is very irresponsible of you, I don't see how you managed to survive this long in this forum. Being different is a sin then. I simply think different but that doesn't mean it's perfectly okay for you to diss me...

I can report you for disrespecting me by repeatedly calling me a noob in an insulting fashion, but I will not because you are factually correct, I am a noob in forums of this sort. You can report me, it's your freedom, but I insist that I am being unfairly treated by you, you are only reporting me because you don't like what I am saying, not because there really is something wrong with what I am saying. Me saying that your post is long doesn't mean I dislike it, but I cannot feign and say "well-said" because I don't think it's well-said. Am I not entitled to my opinion? Or should I be silenced because I disagree with someone who's been around here longer than myself? That's unfair! I am a noob, you cannot stop me from being a noob by telling me off for being one, you're meant to show me how not to be a noob. Who hasn't been a noob before? The reason why you can identify noobish traits in me is because there were other noobs who behaved like me, am I right? So why pick on me? I did not flame bait or use irrelevant argument here, that's the purpose of quoting you. You asked the question at the end of your long initial post here, so I answered your question from my rendering. If I rendered it wrong, you should have clarified not snap on me. You are the one who quoted "the true story of an American hero" from the DVD cover or whatever, but then it's so different from the true story of the real Balto so according to basic logic, one has to conclude either you misquoted or whoever made the cover lied. In other words, it was you who accused the producer, not me. I only responded to your assertions. You haven't proven anything yet but if the admin decides to ban me, I demand reason. No enmity on your end? Are you sure??? Subjectivity clouds judgement, this applies to any human, even admin and moderator. No appreciation for the rules? Not really, I simply lacked awareness of them in the beginning, but after I read the rules, I detected several points where subjectivity can heavily influence the admin/moderator's judgement. I don't think there is anything wrong with pointing the truth out. O and something's wrong with your logic when you encouraged me to keep reading the same thing again and again until I understand it. I cannot! If I read the Koran in Arabic (I dunno Arabic) again and again, it won't make me understand it. If I read something I don't understand, if I read it repeatedly, all I can do at best is memorise it, but my understanding won't improve. That's why we need classes and teachers, just memorising the Bible for example, does not automatically make me better at interpreting it. If you're senior, you're meant to be helpful, not hateful... If voicing out my disagreement and defending my viewpoints are considered flame baiting, then I don't think discussions would be fruitful at all since either one has to agree with the post or else remain silent. I saw the dictionary definitions of flame baiting and definitely deny that any of my comments fall into that category.

I have a pretty "ginger" habit of protesting against injustice, so I don't back down until I get my point across. Yes, and I am fully capable of composing a long post if I have to. So would you mind keeping your negative assumptions to yourself and stop biting me wherever you see me lol?

PS: I can quote the site rules and then point out the elements of subjectivity in some of them but this isn't the thread for that. I am not instigating anything, just telling the truth.

Then you're going to have a very serious problem on this site.

Meanwhile, in spite of your tl/dr diatribe, I have reported this situation in depth to the moderators. Good luck trying to carry that "injustice" thing. lol

Addressing the main subject, I'd say that the true story could stand more attention. I think it's pretty clear that the filmmakers did invent a good many parts of the story for themselves; the idea of a single team transporting the medicine rather than a relay, Balto being a stray, Balto being half-wolf, and the ever-popular Jenna, to name some of the better known examples. As a certain history buff once taught me, and as anyone who reads the true story knows, those parts of the story were made-up. Did the changes make for good storytelling? I think so. Would it have been better to acknowledge those changes and say that the movie was based on a true story, rather than calling it one? You tell me.

Hopefully it's alright if I comment here.
I first saw the original Balto when I was very small, maybe about five or six? And at that time, I didn't really understand that no, this story didn't happen exactly as Universal portrayed it. But it still held I kinda "magic" for me. It made me so excited and interested in the dog-like history. When we went to NYC, I dragged my mother, brother, and grandmother around Central Park just so we could see the statue. When I was older and the second movie came out, and I learned that no, there was no real Jenna or Aleu or Steele, I was heartbroken, but still interested about this story. Hopefully this isn't a paragraph a huge jumble of thoughts, I have kinda a hard time of organizing them. So yes, Balto touched my heart. Both the real one, and Universal's. Universal created this character who helped to share the story of one of the unnoticed stories of all time. And at the same time made him lovable and interesting.
And it was this Balto that led me to learn more about the original.

I came to Baltosource, because it's about Balto. It's the name for gosh sake cx
Is it fun to see people's creation and character's based off the Balto universe? Of course! The community on here is very creative and imaginative, and their characters and comics and stories know how to keep me interested. But it's also a Balto site. I think you have to care about the dog that died 100 years ago,because caring about him and knowing his story makes the site that much more exciting. This dog died 100 years ago, yet we're still talking about him now?
Hopefully this made sense and I'm not completely offtopic here.