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; ; I like Aleu a lot...

What I've gathered from the community here is that they hate her because of her high-pitched voice and basically the fact that she's a teenager.
Which is rather unfair.

No, it's her attitude, and people will like and dislike what they want. That IS fair.

Yeah, her attitude and personality are that of an adolescent: bratty and rebellious as well as indecisive and uncertain.

You as well as the rest of us could still be adolescents or at least you were one once, you should know this.
That's not restricted to her as a character, that's her age group and that's all that people really hate.

Also, I'd like to point out the correlation between your apparent surly attitude to everything about Balto, and your My Little Pony icon.
OBVIOUSLY you've moved on and found something "better" to obsess about.

So? Don't be stereo typical, not all teens are like that. Besides, dogs don't become teenagers, and Aleu is stated to be over, or at least a year old. A dog is an adult by then.

What does my avatar or my personality have to do with any of this? You have no right to judge me; you don't know me.

I've reported you for that, bud. What you did classifies as flame-baiting.
P.S, I'm 17, going on 18.

A year? In dog years that's only 7.
Therefore she's not an adult, and that also explains her high-pitched voice.

If I may point out, that I seriously doubt the makers of this movie took any kind of science into perspective, what with the wolves thinking their only diet is caribou and all.

Her high-pitched voice and her attitude are rather annoying and the main reason I dislike her, but not 100%. Dealing with those subjects, however, I can safely say that I know a fair amount of teenagers who act like teenagers and aren't whiny just the same. They're mostly just smart-mouths, which we only get a hint of that from Aleu when she's being a grammar-Nazi. And no one likes a grammar-Nazi. (Especially those who have a hard enough time learning two languages to know little details that normal folks don't even care about themselves.)

In all honesty, there's all kinds of reason to love a free-spirited character, so long as their own reasoning is relatable and not outright stupid or regrettable later. Kiara from Lion King 2, is in essence exactly like Aleu. Only every rebellious thing Kiara's ever done was against her father who was wrongfully controlling her. And even then she had consequences for disobeying him.

Oh, but how could I forget that every mistake Aleu makes ends up turning out okay? Her character, despite making countless AVOIDABLE mistakes, never has a single consequence from them. A few are her telling her dad he hates him (she never apologized for saying that), not giving her mother ANY kind of proper goodbye, being a horrible daughter all-around, and those are just a couple of the family issues xD And everything is just hunky dory anyway. No one likes a goody-two-shoes *coughkodicough*.

Calm down people. Especially you, BoltroWolfQuest. This bit you said to Mighty was uncalled for:

Verbal warning this time as I don't think you've been given any yet.

Now, if this topic can't be discussed like civilized adults, it will be locked.

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Excellent post by the ways, Cat. Especially the last bit. The fact she never had anything bite her in the butt for anything she did wrong still burns me.
Nor giving Jenna a proper farewell. I find it hard to believe that when Balto let her know Aleu wasn't coming home, she just let it fly like that.

Uhh...how about nothing happened because Balto was there to get her out of trouble the whole time?
All the problems were avoided because of Balto.

This IS Animation Source. NOT just Balto Source. And don't double post. It's not hard to edit your last post and add to it.

You're also going off topic and I HIGHLY recommend you stop now.

*Sends PM*

Sorry, going back on topic now.

I'm sure we're all well aware that there are some teenagers that aren't bratty and stubborn like Aleu is, but did you really think that the media wasn't going to adhere to stereotypes?
I mean come on, this same bratty defiant adolescent figure has been used in a lot of Disney sequels, such as Lady and the Tramp II and The Lion King 2 as someone mentioned.

And once again, Aleu never got in serious trouble or suffered any repercussions because Balto was there to bail her out.
She WOULD have been shot by that hunter if Balto didn't step in and attack him.
She WOULD have gotten pummeled by that bear if Balto didn't happen to find her in time and jump in.
She WOULD have gotten beaten up by Niju if Balto didn't swim over to fight him off for her.
So you're hating ALEU because she didn't suffer any consequences? That's a credible reason to hate Balto for not letting her be punished, or even to hate the film as a whole.
But that's not a reason for anyone to be hating Aleu specifically; that was beyond her own control.

I know right? You know how alot of movies roll the credits but still show extra footage of the movie? They could've done some stylized screenshots of him breaking the news to her and her being upset or something xD I mean, it's the LEAST they could've done. But what they should've done was have her discover that her place was back at Nome or have her say that she'll visit soon or something, you know.



Yeahhhhhh about those. They suffer the same problems, aside from Sequelitis. Movie-makers cared more about making a buck than making genuinely interesting, or more importantly, relatable characters. I mean, who is actually going to come out and say they share the same negative traits Aleu has?

As I said before, Kiara, tho has her own "eh" moments, had her consequences, and learned her lessons where they counted.

Scamp is hardly endearing, with his "That's laaame, watch me do better *fail fail fail fail*" attitude. But Angel at least got mad at him for blabbing her secret when she asked him not to. And also for disobeying his family, he was also rightfully punished. And for even agreeing to be a junkyard dog and be without his collar, he was taken to the pound. Consequences for being an idiot helped him evolve and mature.

Melodie from Little Mermaid 2, I'm not even gonna defend her. She has the same issues as Aleu, minus the annoying voice.



So in other words, without Balto, she would've died. THAT definitely defends her as a character That she's completely hopeless without daddy. I feel a tinge of pity for that wolf pack.

And just so you know, it's VERY. VERY difficult to like a movie and not like it's main characters at the same time. Aleu was getting her butt saved throughout the whole thing and not giving a single word of thanks for it. And the fact that her existence made Balto a terrible parent on top of being an uninteresting character. Not only can she not stand on her own as a character, she negatively effects the ones she interacts with. She's lame.

Oi.
Please keep your fanboy-ish obsessions to yourself and out of this topic, we're just dissecting a character.
Anyone who has had an upper-level literature class ought to know there is no negotiating to be had here, this is a place for opinions, not winning an argument.
ANYWHO

Aleu and Ariel form a Little Mermaid were both bratty teens- who instead of resolving their actions, achieved their "happy endings" as a positive consequence for their actions. Kiara sort of did this too. I'm not saying that every teenager's rebellion should end up biting them in the butt, but the rebellious side seems the just consume the character, as it did with Ariel and Aleu and even Kiara to some extent.

I don't know how realistic it is for a character's every actions to drip with "life is unfair,whine,whine,whine" attitude. Yes, we all have our moments, but the key word is moments. Perhaps Aleu could be seen as accepting her life the way it is, instead of rushing into a new life, with the hope that it will just fit her like a glove and everything will work out fine for her.
That's what kinda got to me, I guess.

God forbid I express my opinions on a public forum.



Same with Max from A Goofy Movie. He had his rebellious side, but that didn't define who he was. He was a spunky "hip" member of the Goof family, growing up and learning not just to think for himself, but to also accept his Dad for who he was. Aleu had absolutely no endearing or life-changing experiences WITH HER FATHER, that would've realistically changed her mind so drastically about her heritage.



Yeah exactly. There was no thinking on her part. She didn't even WORRY about MAYBE doing a bad job as a leader, which she would've realistically speaking. She never asked herself "What if I mess up?" and her father in turn saying, "You'll be fine. You get your leadership skills from me too."

See, doesn't that just sound better and more enlightening? You would've been killing two birds with one stone. Aleu would've accepted her father and her heritage at the same time, and also in turn learning to trust herself as a leader. For someone as "unsure" of who they were, she sure did act like she had the answer for everything. Which is like a teenager, but thanks to the movie's "wonderful" pacing, it fell flat as a plot.