Surprisingly few have heard about Fluffy and many of those who have, are confused with all the books and the sequel and stuff. Here's the story digging into facts of the timeline and looks, as well as the official words by the film's makers. I originally created this article to The Lion King Wiki as SuperBabySimba, but as Wikis can be edited by anyone who is confused and prefers daydreams over facts, I chose to post this original version here to help those who are interested. :)
FLUFFY'S STORY
"Let's just end on the next generation. Here's Fluffy, Simba and Nala's new little cub. Let's just end on Fluffy."
—The Lion King film makers, on the 1995 commentary track of the film, refering to the cub at the end.
Fluffy is what the cub at the end of The Lion King film is officially called.
Appearance
Fluffy looks a lot like its father Simba did as a baby. It has very similar facial features, golden brown fur, paler toes, and big, black pupils without irises. But couple of noticable differences can be found: it has black ear rings whereas Simba didn't and it doesn't have fruit juice 'paint' on its forehead unlike Simba did.
Information
After The Lion King
After the release of the film in June 1994, the cub became very popular object of speculation as for who it is. The film's content itself doesn't say anything about the cub apart from its outside appearence. No name or gender is given. Because of the look-alike appearence to Simba and how no female had been seen with a golden brown fur, many believed it to be a boy and many still refuse to believe it's not.
The ear rings make some absolutely certain that it's a boy, even though Simba as a baby didn't have them and Simba's mother Sarabi does have them, which supports the idea that Fluffy is not a boy. And the fruit juice paint was an essential part of Simba's blessing ceremony in the beginning, the lack of it at the point where the only known baby boy had it, implies that it might be a girl - especially when combined to the fact about the ear ring matter.
Thus, the original design is genderless by looking like a boy but having couple of very crucial design differences. Some outsider writers created childrens' books wherein it was visioned as a son. In 1994, few months after the film, was published book series The Lion King: Six New Adventures, which became the most popular but remained quite unknown as it was released only in USA. In it, Simba and Nala have a son named Kopa. Those books have never been tied into the film by its makers and thus are not officially semi-canon but just official fanfiction.
As in 1995 the film's creators released a commentary track for the Laserdisc release of the film, wherein they called the cub "Fluffy" and didn't refer to it either a 'he' or 'she' - even though Kopa was in Disney's copyrights and there would've been no harm done by turning the cub into him or confirming it a gender. By Fluffy, they made clear they didn't want the book universe connect, that Kopa is not the cub in the film itself and that in the official story the cub would remain without a gender or real name.
Soon enough Disney's film makers started to create an official sequel film, but the crew was all different from those who created the canon film. A rumour has it that the sequel's creators were planning to write two cubs, a boy named Chaka and a girl who had several name options, but cut the boy out in early production and developed the story only with the girl. Any official source for them ever considering a boy cub has not been provided, that's why it's only a rumour. In 1998, The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride film was released and Fluffy had finally gotten an official movie universe gender and name: a girl Kiara.
After The Lion King II: Simba's Pride
They used Fluffy for baby Kiara in the film's official trailer which ought to make very clear Fluffy and Kiara are supposed to be the same cub in essence. But even so, as Kiara's design and the ceremony are obviously different from the first film's version in the actual film, it has caused confusion among fans - especially those who know about Kopa in the books. There are a few fan theories to connect Kopa into the story, of which the most popular is that Zira killed Kopa before the film's beginning despite of the fact that a loss of an earlier child doesn't make sense to about a twenty facts in the film's story.
In the film's official trailer they used Fluffy for Kiara's presentation, instead of their redesigned version. My guess is that they needed to connect Fluffy into an official SP material but in the actual film they wanted to redesign it, so the solution was to make the point in the trailer. And yes, even if the trailer was made by the marketting people, The Walt Disney Company does see this trailer as official as it has the word "Disney's" on it and it was released on an official Disney VHS. Also, Kovu's animators has confirmed in a magazine interview, that Fluffy is Kiara.
And those who correctly do their math on the character timelines the two films combined provide, find out that it doesn't even leave room for any older siblings to Kiara, the very least for Kopa: Kopa from the books and Zira's son Kovu from the sequel film look the same age (and thus would become the same age if stuffed into the same story) yet Kovu was born before Simba even met Nala, and Fluffy could not have been born before in the least 3 months later. This could have Kovu and Fluffy look the same age. Which Kovu and Kiara do. If there was another cub before Kiara, carried while Kovu growing up and then growing up alongside Kovu, then Kiara carried and growing up for months...Kovu would look much older than Kiara. There is no room for anyone between Kovu and Kiara's births. Especially not someone as old as Kopa.
Why they remade the cub's ceremony scene is unknown. Why they redesigned the cub is unknown but likely they wanted it to look more obviously female, or just less like Simba as in more personal and individual appearence instead of a clone of her father. Whatever the motive, the act is retroactive continuity that is very common in works of fictional series.
One essential thing remains common between Fluffy and Kiara and the ceremony scenes: neither have the fruit juice paint on them when Rafiki holds them up for the kingdom to see. Kiara gets the paint after Rafiki takes her down. Thus, the continuity doesn't completely lack and Kiara and Fluffy blend into one on a practical level in the films too.
Simba's Pride's makers have officially confirmed that in their story Fluffy is Kiara. In this official interview they say "It starts off where the first film left us with a twist - you think it's a king but it's a queen!" And remark also that he says that we THINK it's a boy, not that it actually was in the film itself. But the point is, one of the animators have confirmed that in their story Kiara IS the cub at the end of the first film.
Fluffy is Kiara in the entity of the movie universe, which forms the official story of The Lion King, while the first film's commentary track proves Fluffy never was even supposed to be officially anyone until Kiara.
Fluffy = Simba and Nala's first child because its creators said so.
Fluffy = genderless Fluffy in its own film's story alone. Thus turns into any fan's original character.
Fluffy = a boy in the book universe alone. As the book universe stories contradict each others, Kopa isn't even the only version of Fluffy in the book universe.
Fluffy = girl Kiara in the entity of the official story that is the one formed by the two films.
| June 11, 2014 | ||
Fluffy = a son named Kion - Kiara's little brother - in the upcoming
spin-off movie and TV series called "The Lion Guard". |
| October 02, 2013 | ||
first of all, I am not a kopa believer, kopa is NOT fluffy, kopa is Alex simmon's solely creation, kopa was never made by the Original, and I am not a kiara believer, I am just me :I you already know this, the Canon story line ENDED with fluffy, the cast said, "Let's just end on the next generation. Here's Fluffy, Simba and Nala's new little cub. Let's just end on Fluffy." by the statement any continuation of the story CAN'T be of the canon, whether it be from comic or a movie, its NON-CANON, to repeat again, the story ended with fluffy, You seem to contradict yourself continually and by continually... I mean all over the internet, No offence, You said ''Simba's Pride's makers have officially confirmed that in their story Fluffy is Kiara'' yes, in THEIR STORY not the CANON story,, therefore SP story claiming fluffy to be a girl CAN'T BE IN LINE WITH CANON, as you claim that sp is in canon line,,. there can't be a fluffy in till Kiara, that's putting SP as Canon, continuing,, SP UNIVERSE is NOT in line with the CANON UNIVERSE, in the canon There is NO out-lands with termites and as zira put's it, ''no food, less water'' there is NO Upendi either, where hippo's swing in vines ![]() whether kiara is in the movie or not, she is still NOT Canon, the canon movie universe is done, and over with, therefore SP universe is NEW, and thus has outlands and upendi, |
| January 03, 2013 | ||
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I believe fluffy would be a girl because the girls might get the juice
after the preseentation |
![]() in particul ar | August 29, 2011 | |
Hey, nine months old sounds about right if you ignore the books and
just look into the movies! |
| May 09, 2011 | ||
Four months your butt, mate. ;D Learn lion biology before making such
silly claims. ![]() Kovu was born in the final days or weeks of Scar's reign, yes that seems to be the case judging by Zira's words. But because lionesses carry their unborn cub for 3 months, he would've been your four months old at Kiara's BIRTH or when Kiara was 1 month old (and she clearly wasn't such a baby when she met Kovu!) So, seeing to Kiara being evidently quite old herself (perhaps six or seven months old or so as that's definitely the age cub Simba was and Kiara appears the same age) when they met, Kovu had to be at least 9 months old when he met Kiara. (As in the 3 months Nala carried Kiara + the months they grew older.) |
![]() us | May 09, 2011 | |
Kovu is not two years old. By that time he'd be Nuka's age and clearly
he wasn't. Kovu was born during the final days of Scar's reign, and
was about maybe 4 months when he met Kiara. |
![]() | May 03, 2011 | |
I get it now! When the film maker's were trying to get idea's of what
the cub would be, they didn't know if it was going to be a boy, or a
girl. So They just named it Fluffy for there idea's. Then when they
had there idea all done they decided to do a girl cub Kiara. And when
She was made, people started to make up Kopa. Because they thought
Simba should have a boy cub, like how Mufasa did. I agree. So,
tecnicly, when your thinking about Kopa, it's Fluffy. People just made
Kopa up, that's what i beleive. Now your head should all clear up!
But if you want to still call him Kopa it's ok. I still talk about
him, and use his name. Remember... it's really FLUFFY FLUFFY
FLUFFY. |
| April 30, 2011 | ||
Read carefully. I said Kiara had the fruit juice AFTER she'd been
presented whereas the only known baby boy (Simba) had the juice
already BEFORE the presentation. Fluffy either doesn't have the fruit
juice while presented which means it too would have it afterwards just
like Kiara. I'm not gonna explain the age looks matter because I already did in this article. You're a Kopa believer who believes there was even a third cub even though no such thing has ever been officially shown, mentioned or implied to. So no, I am not going to explain anything to you further than this article reads. No offense intended, I've just learned my lesson on TLK religions. This article is for those who aren't yet too deep in their belief systems. ![]() |
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![]() jhr | April 30, 2011 | |
[Bad person, bad] Kiara did get the fruit juice! And whats that about
"fluffy" being the wrong age, let the people after me have their own
times for "the siblings" [my words for Zira's cubs]. |
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