It's a stupid reason for fighting anyway.

No one should be fighting on this page. I don't understand it, but thats just what happens. Its not your fault Hecate, you just wanted to help the site by creating the profile. But thats just what the stubborn people here do. Fight. They shouldn't, but they do

It's okay, Hecate, and believe me, I understand. If you want, I'll keep an eye on this page and delete any comments that probe a fight. I hang out here anyway, and this is kind of like a second home to me.

I think too, but it start to piss me off ... I try to make something nice for the site, for members who want it ( cause, as you can see, I'm not the only one who want it, many members already use it ^-^ ) and all I " receive " is this ... Fights about nothing ! I think you can understand what I fell since you probably already got the same thing. I just don't understand ...

And sorry for my bad english.

Hecate --> Please, calm down. No one is saying anything like that, just merely expressing our opinions on the matter, and frankly, I am glad that Fluffy got a page. He/she deserves it.

You don't have to blame me to create this page but the child who can't just not admit that this is a lion cub gender less who is at the end of the movie. No matter if it's Kiara, kopa or just Fluffy ! If Simba's pride have pay attention, like said Brown wolf, to the first movie end, there will not be a page for him. If I have to ask to steet to close the posibility to comment here, it's ok, I'll. But stop fighting about this, this is pretty stupid.

You don't have to care if this cub is kiara or Kopa ... let people think what they want and it's it ! I don't see why you all have to fight cause X think is Kopa, Y think it's Kiara and Z think it's just a little genderless cub !

Why I made it ? Cause the lion king's creator don't have plane to have sequels or book. SO I think that this little one deverse a page like all the other characters from the first movie ( even more since they give it a nickname Fluffy ). If you want him/her to be Kiara or Kopa, make it, but stop fighting about stupid things like this ... If some people want this to be an other character from Kopa and Kiara hu ? Should we do 500 differents pages for it cause you can't rest in peace and admit that other people don't have the same oppinions than you ? I don't think so.

That's too bad. The first Lion King movie was the best. There was no question to why Simba ran away or why Scar killed Mufasa. Everything was planned with details that made it great. Then they made Lion King 1 1/2 (or Lion King 3 Hakuna Matata in other countries) which explained it even further in it's own comical way. There wasn't much confusion but when Simba's Pride came out it obviously did not measure up to the first movie. It's too bad because the story was good and it would have been better if they paid attention to details.

@Wildash --> "But the one thing that I don't get is why would the people who made the movies have Kiara was Simba's cub but then have Kopa in the books. Though, Kopa being in the movies was their original idea it seemed to create a lot of confusion for fans."

Well, that's where Simba's Pride fails. The books, which were made after the first film was released, shows us that Simba and Nala have a son. And then a sequel appears and lo and behold, it is not a son but a daughter. Strange, yes? Of course it is.

And it is said that the makers of Simba's Pride did not know of the existence of the Six New Adventures books. Somehow, I find that hard to believe. Disney accepted the books. What, do these people not communicate? Apparently not.

And, in post production, Simba and Nala were supposed to have twins, it seems, although even that is unclear. Simba's Pride is a poor excuse of a sequel and had no business being made for all of its faults.

Brownwolf- That sounds right. I don't mind the page being just for Fluffy because the creators of The Lion King obviously did not give this cub an identity and this gives people the freedom to do so but I wish people would stop taking this so serious and start fights about if Fluffy is Kiara, Kopa, or Fluffy.

But the one thing that I don't get is why would the people who made the movies have Kiara was Simba's cub but then have Kopa in the books. Though, Kopa being in the movies was their original idea it seemed to create a lot of confusion for fans.

Aiyana -- I think this page was made due to the fact that there were so many arguments about Fluffy's identity, that the 'air needed be cleared' so to speak. Here, anyone can make Fluffy out to be either male or female. Therefore no one is right and no one is wrong. Fluffy is what Fluffy is, and he or she is not Kiara, no matter what that pathetic excuse of a Lion King sequel says or shows us. As for Fluffy being Kopa, well, how is it that Kopa has rimmed ears like Fluffy does. And no, that is not a question.

Wildash99: Thats what I said. I don't even know WHY they made this page. They should know that it would just cause a big arguement. And if someone considers Fluffy seperate to Kopa or Kiara, they should make a page themselves.

Yeah, I guess that's all we can blame. They should have paid a little more attention to the first film and realized that they needed to make the beginning of the second movie the same as the end of the first movie. They obviously didn't pay attention to the details because when they were making the second movie they made many mistakes and had to change it. Or at least that's what I've heard and read. Also, It's Wildash not WildDash. That's okay if you messed up I don't really care that much, you can call me what ever you want I just wanted to make sure you knew.

WildDash -- I blame Simba's Pride's creators, myself.

Wow, Fluffy sure has cause a bit of fighting.

Charlion, will you shut up already? You can't say for sure that's Kopa.

Fluffy isn't Fluffy... HE IS KOPA!

Fluffy may play just a tiny part, but I feel that he/she deserves a page, even though I feel Fluffy is Kopa

Not really, Fluffy is just a genderless cub, but many fans believe that is Kopa.

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Hecate -- I agree. Everyone has their vision. I say let those who believe what they do, stick to it and don't shove it down other people's throats. And that includes the 'truth'.

Frankly, I can't stand these 'realists'.

*mutters: SP's creators couldn't pick up where the first film left off on a proper scale...*

This piss me off too ...
I was hoping that the description I've made should not creat any fight but it's in french.
The sequels was not writen when the first movie was done. So No Kiara on project, no Kopa neither. It was just a random cub to say " the life continue after Simba and Nala ". AND after this, some OTHERS creators named him fluffy for a book who's not made by Dinsey ( but approuved ). Years after the succes of the lion king, Disney made a sequel and made Fluffy become a girl ( maybe to be liked by more girls this time ? ) And that's it.
People can trust anything they want, if for them it's Kopa, Kiara or just Fluffy ( I mean in they version ) but what I said is what it really is.

I agree, Aiyana. No fighting on this page.

They should just know that this char page will cause Kiara vs Kopa fights! Just don't go there peeps

Presshorse -- This character is anything but made up. While many people believe it could be Kopa, the fact is, this character could be either a boy or a girl. That is a girl other than Kiara, which it is not. You can be mad all you want, but clearly, this character is here to stay, as it should. It is part of the universe. A small and controversial part, but an official character nonetheless.

this character is made is made up to me. Im so mad at whoever made this, its just that it cant be the so to be called 'Fluffy" when it really should be Kopa

WildDash -- There are a lot of people who like to think of Fluffy as an earlier version of Kopa. I'm one of those people. While there are others who deem that Fluffy is Kiara, but if you look at them real closely - which is what people who are... misguided fail to do - they are not the same. Regardless of Simba's Pride official trailer shows us. They're too different and are not one and the same.

I thought Fluffy was Kopa when the creators were just making the second lion king movie. Though, I must admit I am starting to like the idea of Fluffy being his/her own lion not just an early version of Kopa.