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I knew the Rescue Rangers would return.

Why exactly?

Just a feeling. At first, I thought there would be a VS project just like Talespin, then I thought what if Boom! brought them back.

Well I'm pessimistic again. I think the only way we will ever get a new Talespin comic is to do it ourselves (we will, anyway! but that will never be the same thing...and it will take us ages)

Dude, you need to realize that although a great series, Tale Spin is the least popular out of the original DA shows. Rescue Rangers, Duck Tales & Darkwing Duck are more popular. That's why those series get the comic book treatment first.

And what do you base that on?

There is a general feeling that the *companies* don't seem to jump on it as much as the others, true, but as for not being as popular, I truly don't think so.

It's not easy to find precise figures, but for example, I keep watching the Amazon sales rank and it shows that, apart from Ducktales and Gummi Bears, it's the third best selling DA title. Darkwing Duck is ALWAYS outsold by all the others. And THAT is a concrete proof to me.

Also Talespin got a second DVD pack, which means the first one got enough sales. Otherwise they wouldn't have bothered. Remember they stopped Gargoyles after only the second volume, while it's *supposed* to be much more popular. Yet they still released a second volume of Talespin, and that was after they stopped Gargoyles...

It's even more strange to see that the companies don't seem to care about Gummi Bears too, because it's clearly the second most popular. So why is it kept in the black too? (And yes, Gummi Bears didn't get a second DVD pack, but the first one was released late and at the same time they cancelled ALL the Disney Afternoon DVDs altogether.)

Of course, if people keep saying that, they will automatically get themselves convinced of that, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily true.

I would have said that releasing a comic would have been a good way to test that, but the order in which they will release them has a huge importance. If Talespin had been released first, then it would have had huge sales because a lot of the Disney Afternoon lovers would have bought it, even if not their favorite (which is what happened with Darkwing - a lot of people didn't particularly like it, but still bought the comic to support them) Now, it won't have this chance anymore.

Finally...if Boom! really cared about doing comics for the most popular shows...Do you honestly think they would have chosen to do Disney comics, and of shows that are out of air since 15 years?

Maybe the only reason these two shows are not being used more is because people don't remember their episodes as clearly as the others (which would also explain why they sell better), but not because they like it less, and that doesn't make them less famous.

I think we should be realistic. I don't know why Talespin wasn't chosen, but neither were Goof Troop or Gargolyes yet. It means there's still hope. Maybe it means they're busy with Ducktales, Darkwing Duck and Chip N dale, that they haven't gotten the chance to announce more titles yet.

Well, what I mean is that it's not only Boom Studios :

- Ducktales got : a new clothes line, comics books reprints, merchandise like the VinylMation and a lot others I didn't keep track of.
- Rescue Rangers got : a new video game (!!), an Electric Tiki's statuette, a new comic book, VinylMation, shirts
- Darkwing got : a snowglobe, a new comic book, an Electric Tiki's statuette, VinylMation, shirts
- Gargoyles got : 12 comics issues AND a spin off series, an Electric Tiki's statuette, shirts

And that's probably forgetting a lot of things I didn't find yet. (which is why most of them are recent)

What did Talespin got? Err...a TEE SHIRT. In 15 years.

You're simply biased dude....
You're a huge Talespin fan but so what. We all love the series, ya know. Let's be realistic. You are constantly watching the amazon sales rank. The rank now means nothing. You should've compared the sales rank @ launch. If Darkwing, Duck Tales and RR are getting merchandise and comic books first, that means that they're more popular.
You say that TS got a second volume, so did RR, so did DD and DT. DT even got a 3rd volume.
One more thing - the Duck Universe and Chip & Dale will always be more popular than the Jungle Book universe - that's a fact.

TS comic books will most probably come at one point. Most probably next year, so cool down a bit.

Well you summed up everything there : there's no fact about this.

That post of yours just shows how big of a whiny fanboy you are. It's a proven fact that the Duck Universe is one of Disney's biggest properties, especially as far as comic books go. In Italy alone Topolino sells around 700k - 1 million copies per week.
Also, i don't see any movies being made with the Jungle Book characters... If they were that popular, why are not they in comic books and DTV movies ?

I won't argue with you anymore. I like your website and all, but your fanboyism prevents you from seeing the facts sometimes.

I hope that next year Talespin comic books will appear, though, because the show is great.

Peace!

I've got to side with TopCat on this one at least in the context of the 1980's and 1990's. Not so much now; but still valid nevertheless. Quality of series doesn't always mesh with popularity.

I should also point out that TaleSpin has some interesting problems it must overcome. I'll let Chris Barat explain this for me...



Part of Darkwing Duck's popularity was that it was more accessible due to the "funny hero" which is a staple of American animation. TaleSpin is more towards a hybrid between Japanese/European animation (although to call it anime is false since there was Amercian involvement in the show) and thus not as accessible. It requires a lot of talent to pull off what TaleSpin; even more so than Darkwing Duck and Rescue Rangers. This is not a knock against Boom; as much as a knock of the nature of TaleSpin itself. TaleSpin's toy sales were dismal mainly because people saw TaleSpin as a Disney product rather than a toy product which is fine in Feature Animation since we are paying $10 to see it; but can be really problematic when it released on free television. It also doesn't help that TaleSpin was never truly supported by Disney and was thrown under the bus (as demonstrated by a post done by Cartoon Brew where Disney basically didn't promote the Disney Afternoon and basically bashed Looney Tunes which was a huge mistake in my view.)

I think BOOM wants to do a TaleSpin comic; but needs more time to gather people who actually give a darn about the series and unlike Darkwing Duck and Rescue Rangers; this won't be easy since TaleSpin is more Walt Disney than most people give it credit for.

All of this is assumptions, unfortunately assumptions that everyone seems to keep in mind. (including Boom probably)

One more proof that TaleSpin is requested by a LOT of people :

Who would have thought that more (or as many) people want a TaleSpin Boom! comic than a Gargoyles one?

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=272711

I must say even I am surprised...considering the huge Gargoyles fandom.




That said, I was wondering : did some of you thought of sending a letter (not an email, a REAL letter) to Boom? This would have a lot more impact than simple emails.
We have their address (posted in the first message) I could send one myself, but considering I don't live in the US, I don't know if they would take it into account and the shipping fees aren't cheap...

In the latest Darkwing Duck #4, there is the usual "artist of the month" part.
This month, Travis Hill was interviewed (the artist behind the latest Cars comic series and some issues of Toy Story)

When asked "Any other Disney/Pixar characters you're anxious to draw", he replies that he loves the muppets, Monsters inc., the Goofy/Donald/Mickey trio and he also says "I also like pulpy adventures, so TALESPIN and UP would be awesome too".

Could be a sign (or not, considering the artists are "third parties" and not really part of the Boom staff), but in any case, I'm glad an artist working for Boom would be willing to do it




One thing is pretty clear, judging from all the Ducktales characters appearing in Darkwing #4 : they've got a new ongoing series planned for Ducktales soon. Probably after Uncle Scrooge #400. Mark my words.

Now Boom Studios is teasing us!

http://us1.campaign-archive.com/?u=9d17 ... 976a694f0f



What could this possibly mean? Not just a new site I hope. More expansion for the Disney Afternoon comics? (Ducktales, Talespin, Gargoyles?) Maybe merging Disney properties together? (Pixar with Muppets with classics Disney?) A digital online store for Disney comics?
I like being teased (even if I usually end up disappointed! )




Also, James Silvani has posted this on his blog (about the next New York Comic Con) :



If they're gathering many people from the DTVA staff, I would be surprised if they don't have any announcement to make. (I don't think this will only be the "Darkwing Duck classics" reprints) I wonder if Jymn will be among them! Maybe some people at Disney are TRULY reconsidering the potential of their DA series after all...Now I don't think that Boom Studios alone are pushing this so much.

If that's the case, though, I still don't understand why they don't aim at re-airing the shows on any channels.




EDIT : OH YES! This time...on twitter, TheRealDarkwing (which is managed by Boom Studios) said these :

TheRealDarkwing : Oh the stories I could tell you from this photo shoot http://dogandponyshowwebsite.com/wp-con ... ngFull.jpg

AgentSteelBeak : Do tell, den!

TheRealDarkwing : Let's just say, Baloo and Launchpad are of VERY different minds when it comes to aviation.