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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:23 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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And, finally, part 5.


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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:51 pm 
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Could you please use a external host to post your images? I know the forum is limited in the amount of images you can attach, but there isn't a reason to break up these storyboards into several posts.

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Mightybalto1925 wrote:
Could you please use a external host to post your images? I know the forum is limited in the amount of images you can attach, but there isn't a reason to break up these storyboards into several posts.



Mighty, okay. I just can't get used to the mechanics of posting of images on the site. I'll be careful.


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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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I had no idea that existed! Awesome! Wherever did you get those things? I'd pay quite a bit to my hands on some storyboards (i suppose Ebay might be a good place to start)


And is there a reason she can't break up her posts like that? I mean is it hurting your computer Mighty? It certianlly isn't spam, and I don't see a mod telling her off for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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And is there a reason she can't break up her posts like that? I mean is it hurting your computer Mighty? It certianlly isn't spam, and I don't see a mod telling her off for it.


I was only making a suggestion (which isn't a bad thing) for her to not break up her posts since she's only posting images, not a fanfic or a more detailed post where breaking up the posts would be necessary. I also never said her posts were "spam", as they're not; they add to the discussion.

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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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I had no idea that existed! Awesome! Wherever did you get those things? I'd pay quite a bit to my hands on some storyboards (i suppose Ebay might be a good place to start)


Actually http://www.thegremlin.com/balto.html would be a better place to start as that is where most of those story boards came from with the exception of one that Byanca posted which is actually mine...

http://fluke.theicecave.org/storyboards.shtml

I've just had another go at that production drawing I previously posted - I got bored and decided to do a quick (and I do mean quick)line art version of and I quite like the results:

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Finally here is a challenge for you all. The following background is one that I was very fortunate to be able to purchase and I am sure you will agree that it is a stunning painting in its own right - almost a photo in quality. Now I assumed that this piece was from the opening dog sled race scene however I was wrong - it isn't from that part of the movie as far as I can tell.

Can anyone work out which part of the movie it is from?

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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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Can anyone work out which part of the movie it is from?

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Acanis, I think that this is just an early version of mountain landscapes (or maybe it's just some deleted or alternative scene).
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P.S. All those storyboards that depicted Balto and Jenna (deleted scene), I bought many years ago, perhaps on http://www.thegremlin.com/balto.html (as far as I remember well, storyboards were everywhere, so I did not miss the moment, I bought what the most liked). So I just can not remember where exactly I bought, but I tried to keep those storyboards. And I did.

Plus, I also found a video "Demo reel. Rogue pencil test". Pretty funny video cutting. And it seems to me, or Steele says by the voice of Brendan Fraser (especially, when he shouts "I'm not lost!")? Pretty funny.
The biggest laugh I've caused when a dog named Star itself strikes and falls, he began to laugh (this is the funniest moment). And this is much better than the final version (sound of laugh).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qSlWhT6 ... detailpage

I also found a very old backgrounds that were created by a small company "Snowballs". Here we see the premises within the gold dredges.


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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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Byanca Moureen wrote:

P.S. All those storyboards that depicted Balto and Jenna (deleted scene), I bought many years ago, perhaps on http://www.thegremlin.com/balto.html (as far as I remember well, storyboards were everywhere, so I did not miss the moment, I bought what the most liked). So I just can not remember where exactly I bought, but I tried to keep those storyboards. And I did.



Are you sure about that Byanca - I only ask because........

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Plus, I also found a video "Demo reel. Rogue pencil test". Pretty funny video cutting. And it seems to me, or Steele says by the voice of Brendan Fraser (especially, when he shouts "I'm not lost!")? Pretty funny.
The biggest laugh I've caused when a dog named Star itself strikes and falls, he began to laugh (this is the funniest moment). And this is much better than the final version (sound of laugh).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qSlWhT6 ... detailpage

I also found a very old backgrounds that were created by a small company "Snowballs". Here we see the premises within the gold dredges.


That demo real is a really nice Byanca - thank you for sharing. I've seen the concept paintings before but they are also nice to see again and I'm sure others will be viewing them for the first time too. By the way the name "Snow Balls" wasn't a production company, it was actually the code name used for Balto when it was secretly in pre-production. It is a common trick that studios do to avoid other companies stealing their ideas for example Star Wars "Return of the Jedi" was famously code named "Blue Harvest" in early production.

Re: the background. I think you are probably right that it is originally from the Ravine scene at the beginning of the movie and it was removed in the final cut. You see the scene was originally longer as the following story boards show - note the blank areas marked "cut" and as we know they animated other cut sections beyond storyboards, I'd say it safe to assume the same for this scene. For interest the box on the right shows TR which is short for "The Ravine" and then the scene number. If my background is from that scene then I'd assume the number "21" on the painting to match the storyboards:

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Also see that is says to reuse footage from TR01? Well they did...

Here is the first team in the opening scene...
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And here is Steele's team leaving the ravine...
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They didn't even change the musher - the poor guy who is now untangling his team of dogs after Steele snaps at them is suddenly mushing Steele's team! It is so fast you wouldn't notice but check it out for yourselves at some point.

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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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Acanis, it's just awesome! Such detailed storyboards. It is very cool. By the way, in my opinion, here sled dogs are much more attractive than in the final version (so fat and unfit for racing, they look like Chow Chow, but not the huskies or malamutes). Thank you for such an excursion.

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Here is the first team in the opening scene...
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And here is Steele's team leaving the ravine...
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They didn't even change the musher - the poor guy who is now untangling his team of dogs after Steele snaps at them is suddenly mushing Steele's team! It is so fast you wouldn't notice but check it out for yourselves at some point.


I'll tell you more. They use the same animation (one animated sequence). See (really they are lazy?).
The beginning of the film and on the map
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Or this (They just turned the picture).
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Or this... And how many times it?
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And (I hope it's last) this. This is one and the same! Just change the background! In vain did I complain about low-budget anime...
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And (please do not take offense), I can swear that you are the one who knows absolutely all the secrets of the cartoon (I'm sure you're either one of the animators of the team, or you have a close relationship with them - I have never seen these storyboards even on Ebay). But the storyboard that you have (you showed it), it is really yours. Just once I found the same (but other storyboards I really have). Besides, I do not try to arrogate to itself any things (for me the main thing - just to see and admire). For me it does not matter - Do I have this thing or not. I just want to see.


And in general, at the moment, the only thing I would like to see the beginning and ending of cut scene "Steele's collar". And full storyboard episode "Balto the halfbreed" (with phrases -- that what I want to see, because phrases from storyboards and from the final version are different, and the sequence too).


If it will be interesting for you, I found a couple of old backgrounds. The first from above - is my favorite.


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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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Acanis wrote:
Has anyone seen one of these before? It is a blue print for the background. In most cases multiple versions for the same background were painted and a blue print ensures that the layout and detail is the same on each one. The one pictured below is an original and saved from being thrown out.

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Acanis, it looks more like this one episode. However, even here there are some differences (in the locations). Personally, I believe that it is from here Balto with Boris climbed across rooftops at the beginning of the film.
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This is the most possible moment.

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Can anyone work out which part of the movie it is from?

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Please look at this
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Plus, I found quite a beautiful background. Here I am pretty sure that it's deleted scenes, because nowhere I have not seen him (in the movie). And old production drawing.


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 Post subject: Re: Original Balto Art
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Wow. Just... wow. These are fantastic; that's all I can say.

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Time to update with some more original drawings :)

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An interesting couple of background here from my collection which I thought I posted before but could be wrong:

One is screen used, the other was rescued from the studio trash...

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Using a blue print (like the one I shared previously) the artist is able to make exact copies of each background so that the director can request another to be painted if the colours don't feel right or something is lacking. In this case the first one is the final version as used in the movie and the second image was discarded

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Another background and one that doesn't need explaining... the white sheen is caused by the protective plastic over the top.

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Once again the detail is second to none - it is amazing as to how much work goes into creating something like this that is only in the final movie for a few seconds.

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