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Post subject: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:15 pm |
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OMG I'm freaking out here......Ok, so I was watching a Dog Whisperer episode I recorded on Nat-geo and Cesar was helping this couple that had a bunch of exotic pet's. And two of those were a hybrid of a dog and a wolf (they are not as agressive as they usually are). But one is an Arctic wolf Hybrid, and the other one is a mix between a mexican grey and a timber wolf....they're both 3 1/2 years old and they are awesome. I have no clue if you have to have a special exotic pet's liscense to own one but I just found my future dog. Also, I don't know how many of you know of this but I just wanted to post it out there.
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:45 pm |
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:08 am |
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for a hybrid... not usually.. unless it was raised in the wild and you decide to tame it.. since i recently watched over an Alaskan Husky Wolf Hybrid and the lady didn't need nor have a license for him.. and this dog was very very gentle.. but still.. you should not own a pet like this if you know what you're doing or what you're in for and have at least met a few people who keep these as pets and done the research..
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:46 am |
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Hybrids may usually be more tame, but they still have instincts bred into them from years of living in the wild. Being half dog will never stamp those instincts out. I'd advise strongly against getting a hybrid (especially since in most states they are becoming illegal now). Even if you know what you're doing, they can still be dangerous.
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:00 pm |
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I would also advise not getting one because in addition to having very unpredictable temperaments, it is also illegal to own one in many jurisdictions.
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:00 pm |
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Banshee wrote: I honestly don't know what's so great about owning a wolf hybrid. Wolves are NOT pets, and should not be kept as them. And having a dog that is 50%, 75% wolf isnot much better.
Seriously, just get a shelter dog that doesn't have wolf. You'll most likely need a liscence to own a wolf hybrid anyway. Heck, like people above me said, you might not even be able to own one if you wanted to due to the law.
Just get a dog. not likely.. well i don't think in Canada (unless you own an actual wolf) cuz i know a couple of people who own a wolf hybrid but see they didn't even know from the start and the dogs were part wolf and came from the shelter.. well 2 of my friends who own one anyways.. Although part wolf dogs CAN be dangerous but aren't always unpredictable since you hear more canses of pitbulls attacking than wolf hybrids ?? .. odd isn't it.. since you should be hearing more wolf hybrid dogs than bully breeds.. to be honest i find ANY dog unpredictable especially shelter pets since their past isn't known at all even if it's a golden retreiver or a poodle it can still attack.. you just got to notice it's behaviour.. although getting a hybrid dog just because it's part wild is very ignorrant and very stupid in my case.. would make sense if you own a lot of land and plan to stop people from breeding them or saving these dogs then would make sense (there are places like this, some are even in the states). and i totally agree with Aniu Celestis and agree also with Banshee as keeping them as pets but some people, own tigers, lions, crocodiles, snakes (the ones you don't see in pet stores) are being owned by fewer people mainly in the states.. which i find is rediculous and more or less dumb -.-'
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:41 am |
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Well, there is one wolfdog that is actually rather tame and makes an excellent housepet (it's only banned in one country; Norway. This was because of one guy's prejudice of the breed and influence on the government >> Only because it looks like a dog). It's the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/czechoslovakianwolfdog.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakian_Wolfdoghttp://www.hundeguiden.no/HundeBoka/Ras ... vehund.htmI have some experience with them (until it was forbidden and I had to put it down... I really miss him, tbh >_>), and they are protective of their masters and make excellent house pets, although they can be wary over strangers. They never attack without being provoked though, and will often just settle with staring endlessly at people they don't know. The breed is also very intelligent, and that makes it able to read their masters as though they had been caring for their master and not the other way around (lol, it's true). Coupled with their courage and protective behaviour, the CsW is also an excellent guard dog for its owner(s). It can easily distinguish between content sounds, sounds of anxiety, fear or pain, so it will not attack unexpectedly (of course, it's also the owner's responsibility to accustom it to human behaviour) if, for instance, its master is hugged (something a dog would interpret as a hostile motion by nature - that means, any dog). However, you should do your homework and you should have experience in handling and raising dogs before, as it requires more attention and dedication than other dog breeds. But generally, the CsW is not directly a wolf-hybrid; it only has the looks and many of the positive characteristics. Other than that, it is figuratively no more wolf than a German Shepherd, Collie, Golden Retriever, etc. in terms of behaviour (which means it is not a dominant breed, and it will not be very difficult to establish that YOU'RE the alpha - not it).
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:07 pm |
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Pretty much what everyone else has already said. I wouldn't suggest getting one knowingly, being part wolf they're more likely to be unstable. I generally don't agree with wolf/dog hybrids. I don't think it's fair to them at all, especially when the owner just wants a dog that looks like a wolf for the heck of it. If you are hell-bent on having a wolf hybrid then you'll need to do a lot of research on them first and I'd suggest seriously talking with people who've owned them before/do own them now. Nightmare wrote: Well, there is one wolfdog that is actually rather tame and makes an excellent housepet (it's only banned in one country; Norway. This was because of one guy's prejudice of the breed and influence on the government >> Only because it looks like a dog). It's the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/czechoslovakianwolfdog.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakian_Wolfdoghttp://www.hundeguiden.no/HundeBoka/Ras ... vehund.htmI have some experience with them (until it was forbidden and I had to put it down... I really miss him, tbh >_>), and they are protective of their masters and make excellent house pets, although they can be wary over strangers. They never attack without being provoked though, and will often just settle with staring endlessly at people they don't know. The breed is also very intelligent, and that makes it able to read their masters as though they had been caring for their master and not the other way around (lol, it's true). Coupled with their courage and protective behaviour, the CsW is also an excellent guard dog for its owner(s). It can easily distinguish between content sounds, sounds of anxiety, fear or pain, so it will not attack unexpectedly (of course, it's also the owner's responsibility to accustom it to human behaviour) if, for instance, its master is hugged (something a dog would interpret as a hostile motion by nature - that means, any dog). However, you should do your homework and you should have experience in handling and raising dogs before, as it requires more attention and dedication than other dog breeds. But generally, the CsW is not directly a wolf-hybrid; it only has the looks and many of the positive characteristics. Other than that, it is figuratively no more wolf than a German Shepherd, Collie, Golden Retriever, etc. in terms of behaviour (which means it is not a dominant breed, and it will not be very difficult to establish that YOU'RE the alpha - not it). D: O.M.G They're gorgeous. I wish I could afford another dog... There's also the Tamaskan: http://www.tamaskan-dog.co.uk/ || http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamaskan_dogAnd the Utonagan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utonagan || http://www.theutonagansociety.co.uk/Again, both breeds that look like wolves but have no wolf in them.
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:25 pm |
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Wolfdogs might be nice, but they still dangerous to me. For a opinion I suppose.
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:14 pm |
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UK - Ban Cat wrote: Pretty much what everyone else has already said. I wouldn't suggest getting one knowingly, being part wolf they're more likely to be unstable. I generally don't agree with wolf/dog hybrids. I don't think it's fair to them at all, especially when the owner just wants a dog that looks like a wolf for the heck of it. If you are hell-bent on having a wolf hybrid then you'll need to do a lot of research on them first and I'd suggest seriously talking with people who've owned them before/do own them now. Nightmare wrote: Well, there is one wolfdog that is actually rather tame and makes an excellent housepet (it's only banned in one country; Norway. This was because of one guy's prejudice of the breed and influence on the government >> Only because it looks like a dog). It's the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/czechoslovakianwolfdog.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakian_Wolfdoghttp://www.hundeguiden.no/HundeBoka/Ras ... vehund.htmI have some experience with them (until it was forbidden and I had to put it down... I really miss him, tbh >_>), and they are protective of their masters and make excellent house pets, although they can be wary over strangers. They never attack without being provoked though, and will often just settle with staring endlessly at people they don't know. The breed is also very intelligent, and that makes it able to read their masters as though they had been caring for their master and not the other way around (lol, it's true). Coupled with their courage and protective behaviour, the CsW is also an excellent guard dog for its owner(s). It can easily distinguish between content sounds, sounds of anxiety, fear or pain, so it will not attack unexpectedly (of course, it's also the owner's responsibility to accustom it to human behaviour) if, for instance, its master is hugged (something a dog would interpret as a hostile motion by nature - that means, any dog). However, you should do your homework and you should have experience in handling and raising dogs before, as it requires more attention and dedication than other dog breeds. But generally, the CsW is not directly a wolf-hybrid; it only has the looks and many of the positive characteristics. Other than that, it is figuratively no more wolf than a German Shepherd, Collie, Golden Retriever, etc. in terms of behaviour (which means it is not a dominant breed, and it will not be very difficult to establish that YOU'RE the alpha - not it). D: O.M.G They're gorgeous. I wish I could afford another dog... There's also the Tamaskan: http://www.tamaskan-dog.co.uk/ || http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamaskan_dogAnd the Utonagan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utonagan || http://www.theutonagansociety.co.uk/Again, both breeds that look like wolves but have no wolf in them. hehe yeah i've heard some people owning these and said the same!.. and to UK yeah i understand the part where you mean that the owners do it just to have a dog look like a wolf... although i find it understandible for those who it was an accident.. like the one i fosterd.. and i can agree they CAN be unstable.. but then again.. any dog can be unstable due to surroundings, the way it's treated and the list can go on... and i've always thought of owning one of those dogs  i hear so many good things ^^ .. lol i just find it funny that there's a lot of dog breeds involved just to make it o.O .. although i hope one day the AKC, CKC and other real kennel clubs will accept it as a real breed.. but it'll take some time. Then again, you never know if these dogs are inbred, because like every dog, mutt and mongrel of course have inbred lines somewhere just to create them. So if you do get one  make sure you get it from a reputable breeder that will give you the dogs lines (the parents and their parents ... ect...)
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:26 pm |
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UK - Ban Cat wrote: Regardless of the fact it's completely UNFAIR to the animal to have it half wolf and half dog. A wolf may be genetically similar enough to a dog to be able to breed with one but wolves and dogs are VERY different indeed. As Aniu already said - Being part dog will NEVER stamp out the wolf instincts in it. It's almost as bad as keeping a full wolf as a pet - it's not fair to the animal and wrong.
No amount of training will ever solve the fact an animal that is half wild will always be unstable and unpredictable.
But aside from all that - if people are actively seeking out wolf/dog hybrids then people WILL breed them because they can get money for it. Which is even worse. It'll then end up with an over-population of unwanted hybrids because people buying them can't control them and an even greater risk of people being attacked and even killed by them.
Just in the UK in 2008 a child was killed by 2 rottweilers who couldn't be controlled and those ARE full dogs but again were not bred as family pets and can be unstable - imagine if you combine a breed that isn't bred as a family dog and already unstable in that environment with a wolf which should NEVER be treated like any sort of pet? You ARE going to have problems.
As Lux had already pointed, there are plenty of other alternatives with full DOG breeds that look just like a wolf which is not only fairer but a much more responsable approach to it. yeah you have a great point.. but although i'm saying if it happens by mistake... and some owners of the female dog don't know that sancturaries exist.. sell them and so on.. but that's just saying.... but agree with you 
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Post subject: Re: wolf/dog hybrid......they're totally awsome! Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:00 pm |
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Okay, I know this is an old topic...but I just HAVE to speak my mind on this.
I'm a wolfdog owner and I have been for 14 years.
Are they the best breed choice for everyone? No. Just as a Ferrari isn't the best car choice for everyone.
Are they wonderful to have for those who know what they're doing? YES.
So many people have this horrible misconception on how 'unpredictable' and 'unnatural' wolf hybrids are. And where do they get these stories? From people who raised them incorrectly and had no business owning them in the first place.
Rather then go by all the negative stories you hear about them, why doesn't anyone ask people who have had positive experiences with them? Just because a bunch of dopes who shouldn't have owned one in the first place tell about all the problems they had with their wolfdog, that means EVERY wolfdog in the world is unpredictable and bad to own?
Every breed as its own issues; some aggression issues, some have behavioral issues, but that doesn't mean that the entire breed is to blame!
When raised correctly, wolfdogs can be rewarding, loving and extremely loyal companions. They can be trained (despite the rumors about them being untrainable) and they can be wonderful additions to a family, including families with children.
They can be inside the house, they can be taught to use the bathroom outside and they can be taught to not do damage to the house. You just have to be patient, consistent and understanding of their personalities.
They are incredibly intelligent animals, so the owner MUST be smarter then the wolfdog.
Yes, there are sanctuaries for wolfdogs...but then again, aren't there sanctuaries for ALL breeds????
There are good breeders and there are bad breeders. There are good owners and there are bad owners.
Why blame the entire breed for something an uneducated owner did? It's like saying all pitbulls are bad and no one should ever own them. Why, if I started a topic like that, every pitbull owner and supporter would jump down my throat!!! So why label wolfdogs as being evil creatures that no one should own?
UK: "Regardless of the fact it's completely UNFAIR to the animal to have it half wolf and half dog. A wolf may be genetically similar enough to a dog to be able to breed with one but wolves and dogs are VERY different indeed."
Really??? My wolfdogs are perfectly balanced and happy animals, and they're more then half wolf. Your thought on that is only partially true.
Huskies, malamutes, shepherds and samoyeds are the closest relatives on the wolf today; not only in looks, but in behavior as well. Those breeds crossed with wolf make a perfectly fine animal to own.
Now, when you cross wolves with breeds that are no where NEAR wolves, like labs, pitbulls or hounds, you WILL get an unbalanced animal. Personality clashes from two very different breeds. Often, crosses like this give the entire wolfdog breed a bad name.
People, before you start dissing on wolfdogs, PLEASE get both sides of the story. Don't just go with the negative stories; talk to people who have had wonderful experiences with them. There are many, many people out there who own wolfdogs and wouldn't trade them for anything in the world.
I love my wolfdogs, and it's really disheartening to see so many people hate them for no good reason other then the 'I heard stories...' excuse. Give them a chance.
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