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Alaska is killing off the wolves due to saving the carabou calves. Already, many subspeices of the wolf have gone extinct, and to lose the real wolf? The real animals causing the problem are the bears. (said my a bioligest) hunting down an already endagered speices? Just so hunters can kill the carabou later? Its not fair, and i want to stop it.

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There's a lot more to it than just "Alaska is killing wolves - hate them".

Britain is wanting to kill off all the badgers but no one gets as hot about that.

Wolves are a relatively successful hunter and once they're introduced to an area (either by their own doing or human intervention) as long as prey is abundant they'll breed and spread very quickly, obviously killing a lot of the prey species as they do.
As horrible as it sounds, sometimes an eco-system simply can't regenerate the prey species as fast as the wolves kill them resulting in a problem and the clearest solution is to remove some of the predators. Be they wolves or bears.
Unless an area can successfully regenerate the prey species when left alone (say, like in Yellowstone. It seems to be working out very well there, aside from there so many wolves now they're leaving the park boundaries.) then culling is used pretty often.

As UK said there is more to it then hating them for doing this. Every animal in my eyes should have the chance at being saved. People seem to be forgetting that there are absolutely tones of beautiful animals being killed off. Yet it seems most people on here and DA just care about the wolves. As endangered animals go, wolves aren't in as much danger as others, such as Amur Leopard (which only 35 indaviduals in the wild) and many types of Tiger also. Many monkeys and apes are also highly endangered.



Could I ask what you mean by 'real wolf'?
All wolves are 'real wolves'. Remember, Grey wolves and Timber wolves aren't the only ones out there. Granted, they are the most well known, but really, in my eyes, there is no such thing as a single 'real wolf'.

well, reading a lot on this from a history project, all wolves are real wolves yes, but im talking about the fact that the 'real wolves' (the ones that have been around a lot) are timber and gray wolves, they're the ones that mostly started all the other kinds of wolves. I know im not explaining this very well but yeah.

Also, instead of killing them, they could just relocate them into a place that doesnt have them. Letting people just go to town on the animals (the people that kill them arent actually governement personals doing wildlife population control) is just wrong.

Grey/Timber wolves wouldn't be the "real wolf" in such a case. It's far more likely there was another breed of wild canine which the wolves evolved from and branched off into the different species of wolf depending on geographic location.

Relocating wild animals is a huge operation costing a lot of money and needing a lot of planning and man power. Where exactly would they take them? Just drive them across the country and dump them elsewhere and say "Congrats! You have wolves now! 8D".
Not only would that make people in places where wolves don't currently live likely pretty angry it would have a massive effect on that areas eco-system. With the chance of that effect not being a good one. Not to mention the fact that not every habitat is suitable for wolves.

As much as I love wolves it's a given that wolf population control simply must happen.
They open hunts as a good way of doing so. Hunters want to hunt, many want to hunt wolves, there are too many wolves so the local wildlife officials will do a tally of the local wolves and estimate how many it needs to cut down by and set that as the limit for wolf kills. Once that amount has been reached they close the wolf hunting.

The only really "wrong" way of hunting is the helicopter hunts which I don't agree with.

Personally, the reason for this "hunt" is pest control. Which is one of the criteria where hunting is acceptable (the other two being for food and for self-protection). As long as they are not hunting for fun, and there is a valid reason, it is generally fine.



Well, there is a demonstration outside Number 10 tomorrow between 1-6 PM. Protesting against the repeal of Hunting With Dogs Act. Mainly for people without jobs, looking at the fact its on a weekday and during working hours.

I was more meaning the fact people don't create topics ranting about badgers like they do wolves. P:

Oh right. My mistake.

I think if Alaska does this they should be ashamed of themselves. I don't agree at all in hunting wolves. They are a very rare species of animal and an extremelley interesting animal as well. I would hate to see another wonderful sofisticated creature become extinct or near extinct. Alaska is the only state that they are plentiful in. Their are some in Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Colorado, and some other northern states but all in all their are very few. Are they really making that big of a dent in the caribou population. Before anglo-saxons came to Alaska I'm sure both the wolf and caribou population got along just fine.

I am truthfully apalled by the fact that Alaska wants to make it okay to hunt wolfs.

"Hey, you're not allowed to kill the deer. Only we can kill them!"

-Alaska

Oh please... will you people stop worrying so much about wolves? Believe it or not, they're not the only animals on the planet. Plenty of animals have it much, much worse.

Like sharks for example. They're stereotyped sooo much worse than wolves are, when they're really very misunderstood. They're snatched from their homes to have their limbs sawed off, before being thrown back into the water to die slowly and agonizingly. All for Fin Soup. Yes, soup. Don't get me started on bear bile and tiger wine...

Don't get me wrong, I love wolves. But I agree with UK. No one seems to care about other animals much anymore - it's all about wolves. When they have it pretty easy compared to a LOT of animals. And again, like UK said... pest/population control must happen.

I agree with everything you've said.

Tones of people seem to think that wolves are so endangered, when infact, they're not even on the official Endangered Species List (or so I was told.)

As you say, sharks are probably one of the most misunderstood mammals I can name. Although this will probably sound rather stupid, imagine how you'd feel if something that looked like food to you came in your home and started surfing or something. It's not like they 'kill for fun.' People seem to think they are just evil and want to kill everyone, when they simply mistake us for their prey. People also seem to forget about the other millions of animals too. What about tigers? They're beautiful animals and so, so endangered, yet I never here anyone sobbing over the fact that they are dying out and posting tones and tones of articals about them.

Think about the animals here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/6927330/Top-10-most-endangered-species-in-the-world.html They really need help for us humans. Not wolves.

Alright you need to get your facts strait people. Wolves are hardly endangered. And don't you say there are hardly any wolves in Michigain! In lower Michigain yes there are fewer, but in the upper peninsala there are so many wolves that they are actually becoming a threat to the people! Wolves are running out of food sources there and have even gone so far as too rip dogs right off their chains and steal them from the back yard with humans standing right there! My friend was playing with his dog up there and a wolf snatched it right in front of him, while he was screaming and throwing stuff at it. So don't tell me they are becoming extinct. "Get addicted to U.P. wolves, smoke a pack a day" I am a proud supporter of wolf hunting in Michigain.