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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:31 am 
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To be honest, I liked 1an'ahalf. Granted I thought that they could've continued with the second one,
and I'd still like to see that with Kovu now part of the pride ;)
But it was an interesting movie, and had good new characters, and a unique view of the first.
So not mistake to me, but with all the negative views about how it's a waste of time and money, I must wonder.. >.>

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I don't feel it's a mistake because it was more of a lighthearted movie meant to make fun of some bits. Think of it this way: We all know for a fact that some things definitely did not happen the way shown in 1 1/2. In my opinion 1 1/2 was made more to lighten up said bits for the purpose of younger kids watching the movie.

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I don't feel it's a mistake because it was more of a lighthearted movie meant to make fun of some bits. Think of it this way: We all know for a fact that some things definitely did not happen the way shown in 1 1/2. In my opinion 1 1/2 was made more to lighten up said bits for the purpose of younger kids watching the movie.


Good point, I never thought of it that way.

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Yes, it was a massive mistake. All of the song sucked, (except those from the original) he dialogue was retarded, they completely ruined the first movie. The animation was horrible.
All of the animals bow becasue Pumbaa farts? They change the respect the animals show for the new born prince and make it an accident. The circle of life becomes a natural reaction to a bodily function? The animals fall becasue Timon has a stick? Who came up with that? A two year old? Did anyone see Timon in the first one? I didn't. It was becaue of Simba and Nala's great plan that they escaped Zazu not because of Timon or Pumbaa.
I know it's called "behind the scences" but this, this is someting just so mindless.
Okay yes, Timon and Pumbaa's past was something a lot of fans wanted to know but Disney only half way answered it. We learn about where Timon came from, his family, problems, dreams, fears, the way he was treated, looked at (apon) and (in the DVD extras his birth). Yes it had a touch of Naruto/Gaara/Sasuke to it but it doesn't mean we learned everything. They never talk about his dad or why he was such a screw up. Yeah he wanted more from life then just to dig and hind. But why was he so desperate to get away from his family? They didn't like him, not everone;s going to like you, get over it. That's life you can't change it, you can change your self yeah. He doesn't want to though; he choose to leave home so he can be even more alone then he already was. Meeting Pumbaa was only coincidence. Speaking of Pumbaa do we learn anything about his past that wasn't already revealsed in They Lion King? No, we didn't, we lean that he was already at the spectacular place Timon was blindly searching for. We never know why he left there, if it was so amazing and he had tons of bugs to eat, nice place to sleep, lots of room to "express himself" without being heard/smelled why'd he leave to wonder around alone. To find someone who would except him the way he was? He didn't believe there was such a perosn. He didn't tell Timon about his problem until after. Yeah Timon didn't care it only made him want to be around him more BECAUSE it scared away preditors. Anyone remember why Timon chose to team up with Pumbaa, it was because he thought he'd be safe from preditors. He really didn't care about Pumbaa, he made him do waht he wanted regarless of how Pumbaa was feeling. He was completley selfish. In time yeah they didn become friends and "raised" a child together. Pumbaa being the more sensible parent, why, because Timon was still a selfish coward.

Half the movie is Timone and Pumba watching themselves. It ends with Disney characters showing up to watch them. Where were they, in the House of Mouse? This movie was so completly insanly stupid, gay, worthless, useless, In my opinoin it was like Balto 3, stupid, having very little to do with the actualy story line (other than the characters), a complete waste of time, money and effort.

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Yes, it was a massive mistake. All of the song sucked, (except those from the original) he dialogue was retarded, they completely ruined the first movie. The animation was horrible.
All of the animals bow becasue Pumbaa farts? They change the respect the animals show for the new born prince and make it an accident. The circle of life becomes a natural reaction to a bodily function? The animals fall becasue Timon has a stick? Who came up with that? A two year old? Did anyone see Timon in the first one? I didn't. It was becaue of Simba and Nala's great plan that they escaped Zazu not because of Timon or Pumbaa.
I know it's called "behind the scences" but this, this is someting just so mindless.
Okay yes, Timon and Pumbaa's past was something a lot of fans wanted to know but Disney only half way answered it. We learn about where Timon came from, his family, problems, dreams, fears, the way he was treated, looked at (apon) and (in the DVD extras his birth). Yes it had a touch of Naruto/Gaara/Sasuke to it but it doesn't mean we learned everything. They never talk about his dad or why he was such a screw up. Yeah he wanted more from life then just to dig and hind. But why was he so desperate to get away from his family? They didn't like him, not everone;s going to like you, get over it. That's life you can't change it, you can change your self yeah. He doesn't want to though; he choose to leave home so he can be even more alone then he already was. Meeting Pumbaa was only coincidence. Speaking of Pumbaa do we learn anything about his past that wasn't already revealsed in They Lion King? No, we didn't, we lean that he was already at the spectacular place Timon was blindly searching for. We never know why he left there, if it was so amazing and he had tons of bugs to eat, nice place to sleep, lots of room to "express himself" without being heard/smelled why'd he leave to wonder around alone. To find someone who would except him the way he was? He didn't believe there was such a perosn. He didn't tell Timon about his problem until after. Yeah Timon didn't care it only made him want to be around him more BECAUSE it scared away preditors. Anyone remember why Timon chose to team up with Pumbaa, it was because he thought he'd be safe from preditors. He really didn't care about Pumbaa, he made him do waht he wanted regarless of how Pumbaa was feeling. He was completley selfish. In time yeah they didn become friends and "raised" a child together. Pumbaa being the more sensible parent, why, because Timon was still a selfish coward.

Half the movie is Timone and Pumba watching themselves. It ends with Disney characters showing up to watch them. Where were they, in the House of Mouse? This movie was so completly insanly stupid, gay, worthless, useless, In my opinoin it was like Balto 3, stupid, having very little to do with the actualy story line (other than the characters), a complete waste of time, money and effort.


Well,I didn't think it was that bad,just kinda put emphasis on two other characters,besides it did tell a little bit more about their life with Simba.
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I don't think it was a mistake: while the premise isn't that great I liked some of the ideas in this movie. However there is a mistake: the mistake is getting the writers they got for the movie. If they had better writers this might have been decent but instead they got writers who couldn't write to save their lives. This movie contradicts the first and/or doesn't really make any sense.


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^ We should just get a time machine and bring back the writers from YEARS ago. Seriously.
Lack of decent story [and suck-ish animation if it's a sequel], is mostly the root of the problems of movies today.

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When they made the first TLK, they didn't think it would be any good, (Well guess what, it was a hit!) I bet with TLK1/2, they thought it'd be a big money maker.

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Roi Doberwolf wrote:
[and suck-ish animation if it's a sequel]


I didn't really have any problems with the animation except for 2 scenes: the real problem was the script.

The story about Timon wanting to get away from a life of fear and Timon + Pumbaa's version of the original movie barely connected. In fact the last time we see Timon's mother she is still worrying about Timon leaving but we never get any implication that she just gave up hope or decided to let him move out on his own after a while. Then this segueways into the original movie from their point of view. It's like 2 movies somehow got edited into the same reel.

Timon's family just appeared in the climax for the sole reason that the script said so.

Simba was oddly just a plot device rather than a real character like he was in the first 2 movies.

The moral of the movie that you should live your life in a Hukana Matata mindset 24/7 is naive and ridiculous.

Some of the scenes didn't make sense. Why would the animals think that the animals who were knocked out by Pumbaa's fart were bowing? They didn't look like their bowing at all. Or how about the fact that Timon + Pumbaa, who are african animals that live under similar conditions faced by real african animals, somehow have a home theatre. How? They don't live in a capitalist system or have any other human devices so how would they be able to get a theatre? Besides that wouldn't matter if the theatre scenes helped advance the plot but a lot of them don't.

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I think they made 1 1/2 mainly to keep the story going. And it might not have been such a bad idea. I guess you could call it a different point of view of Lion King I. I, for one, liked it. Not only was it a different view, but it also was made to be humorous.

Another thing. If they had made it about Kovu and Kiara's cub, it would probably be bland and pointless. Sure, it might be nice for some, but it's basically the same plot repeating itself. Find someone when they're a cub, fall in love later, have a cub, the end. I dunno. Boring much?

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I have no idea what people are talking about when they say the animation "sucked". Just look at Simba's Pride, the animation wasn't really all that impressive in that film either, and I was actually surprised by the quality of the animation in 1 1/2.

I don't believe this film was a mistake, I don't think it did any real harm to anything. The songs, no, they weren't that good, but I do occasionally find the song "Dig a tunnel" stuck in my head. Are those songs as bad as "Upendi"? Not in my book.

People have different senses of humor, some don't have any at all. The Lion King 1 1/2 made me laugh here and there, and there was only one scene that a completely loved, which was the scene after Timon and Pumbaa rescued Simba.

Though I didn't like how they stuck Timon's mother and uncle into the fight at Pride Rock, other than that, I rather enjoyed the film for what it was.


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Did anyone see Timon in the first one? I didn't.

Uhhh, they were in it a few times actually. You must've been BLIND not to see them in the first movie. Cause they were there A LOT.

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But why was he so desperate to get away from his family? They didn't like him, not everone;s going to like you, get over it. That's life you can't change it, you can change your self yeah. He doesn't want to though; he choose to leave home so he can be even more alone then he already was.

Uh maybe that was the storyline? Plus, how would you feel if your family constantly dumped on you and reminded you they didn't like you every single day? Oh you wouldn't? Didn't think so.

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To find someone who would except him the way he was? He didn't believe there was such a perosn. He didn't tell Timon about his problem until after. Yeah Timon didn't care it only made him want to be around him more BECAUSE it scared away preditors. Anyone remember why Timon chose to team up with Pumbaa, it was because he thought he'd be safe from preditors. He really didn't care about Pumbaa, he made him do waht he wanted regarless of how Pumbaa was feeling. He was completley selfish. In time yeah they didn become friends and "raised" a child together. Pumbaa being the more sensible parent, why, because Timon was still a selfish coward.


Uhh, BJLove... IT'S A MOVIE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. They met because they met. Yeah, Timon was selfish at first, but that was his character. Timon's supposed to be the smart, not so generous guy, Pumbaa's supposed to be the generous but not so smart guy. That's their CHARACTERS.

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Half the movie is Timone and Pumba watching themselves. It ends with Disney characters showing up to watch them. Where were they, in the House of Mouse? This movie was so completly insanly stupid, gay, worthless, useless, In my opinoin it was like Balto 3, stupid, having very little to do with the actualy story line (other than the characters), a complete waste of time, money and effort.

Incase you have no sense of humor, that was supposed to be funny. :roll:

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Uhhh, they were in it a few times actually. You must've been BLIND not to see them in the first movie. Cause they were there A LOT.

In the first movie, AFTER Simba left the pride lands. Not before.

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Uhh, BJLove... IT'S A MOVIE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. They met because they met. Yeah, Timon was selfish at first, but that was his character. Timon's supposed to be the smart, not so generous guy, Pumbaa's supposed to be the generous but not so smart guy. That's their CHARACTERS.

I'm sure she knows its a movie, isn't that what we are talking about? A movie?

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Many people who have a sense of humor didn't find this movie funny.

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Incase you have no sense of humor, that was supposed to be funny. :roll:

Many people who have a sense of humor didn't find this movie funny.

I think that's mostly because the movie was directed towards a young audience, so it won't be funny for all.
I don't find some of the jokes funny, but most of the humor I liked with my own juvenile-ish sense of humor.

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Roi Doberwolf wrote:
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Incase you have no sense of humor, that was supposed to be funny. :roll:

Many people who have a sense of humor didn't find this movie funny.

I think that's mostly because the movie was directed towards a young audience, so it won't be funny for all.
I don't find some of the jokes funny, but most of the humor I liked with my own juvenile-ish sense of humor.

Yeah, my point was people who /can/ find things funny found this film not funny.

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